1971 s dbd o !?!

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  3. cpm9ball

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    It looks like die deterioration to me.

    Chris
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I agree with Chris.

    BTW, Doubled Die Obverse = DDO, not dbd o.
     
  5. eddio

    eddio Well-Known Member

    it looks like die deterioration to me also..good luck in your hunting
     
  6. Allan Dinegar

    Allan Dinegar Dreamedreamer

    It looks like doubling of the date!
     
  7. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    Yes it's doubling, but machine doubling. This is the kind that has no value, even though sever cases may have a small premium.
     
  8. Allan Dinegar

    Allan Dinegar Dreamedreamer

    I'm not an expert on doubling, what other kinds of doubling bring a premium?
     
  9. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Uhhhhh ...................Die Doubling.
     
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    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  11. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    I agree w/Chris too
     
  12. Allan Dinegar

    Allan Dinegar Dreamedreamer

    I'm a little slow sometimes. Die doubling-machine doubling? Machine doubling is intentionally created for deception? I get that die doubling is desirable, that is why I asked. Machine doubling is exactly what, and uhhhh, why is it not desireable, and much less so than "die doubling?" Thanks
     
  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Machine doubling is not intentional for deception. It's caused by the die moving during the strike, sometimes due to its being loose in the press.
     
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  14. profiler

    profiler New Member

    Allan, a doubled die comes from a strike to planchet where the doubling is actually on the die. Each subsequent coin from the same die will have the same doubling (and over the life-cycle of the die, will change slight during early, mid, late, and very late stage impressions).

    Die doubling is rounded and increases the size of the doubled devices (letters, numerals, etc.) It is often notched at the corners but doesn't have to be.

    Mechanical doubling (MD or MDD, machine doubling damage) is broad term for doubling or other distortions of devices that does NOT originate from the die, itself. There are three types: die chatter (when the die bounces); ejection doubling (when coin is improperly ejected); and the most common, strike doubling (when the die lifts off the coin and the coin moves and is struck again).

    The hallmark signs of MD are that it's flat and shelf-like and instead of the devices being enlarged (i.e. "doubled), the devices are narrower or smaller.

    There are many nice comparative illustrations of the two online.
     
  15. coinquest1961

    coinquest1961 Well-Known Member

  16. paddyman98

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  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here is one more reference - I want to share this webpage with you - http://www.error-ref.com/machine-doubling/
     
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  18. Allan Dinegar

    Allan Dinegar Dreamedreamer

  19. Hey guys I got another one today.at first I thought I had mistakenly put the first one in my pocket and I got home and frantically searched and found the first one that I found and I've got a second identical I've actually matched some down markers on the two coins they are absolutely from the same.
     
  20. I will post pictures later busy at the time mowing the yardcan anyone tell me what potential value these coins have
     
  21. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    Worth 1 cent.
     
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