Disaster, need help please!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Flyliner, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. Flyliner

    Flyliner Member

    Ah, this was what I was thinking of doing. Seems like the packaging is all "suspect" now.
    Does this also go for packaging of unaffected coins?
     
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  3. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    Sorry to hear about what happened
     
  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Zip Locks are your inexpensive friend, They come to almost body bag size. Amazon and the local 99 cent store has up to 2 gallon size which can hold albums. Put your nice coins ( whatever holders they are in ) into a ziplock bag, then put some new scuffed up lincoln clad cents ( 100% copper outer layer) into the bag and close it. . The highly reactive scratched copper will be the sentinel and when they start to get brown, replace them ( same principle as "intercept"(tm) process, and easier to tell when effectiveness is gone and replacement needed). Then put that bag into a second zip lock and close it also. If you want more safety, put some desiccant in the outer bag also. If one is really paranoid, repeat with 3 or 4 bags barriers inside the outer one.
     
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  5. leaconcen

    leaconcen learning constantly

    Just realized that my safes are Sentry. One big difference though is that I place all that I have into airtites. Do you think that I can get away with dessicants and not change safes?
     
  6. Flyliner

    Flyliner Member

    After this experience I will never use a product from Sentry again. This was not necessarily their fault, as they did publish a warning, but I now have a bad experience with them and can't take the risk. I will be buying a new safe, mostly to protect what wasn't ruined.

    I have a lot of coins in Airtites that were not effected. It seems that anything in older packaging was affected, and anything in modern packaging was ok. Interestingly I have a lot of bills that were in paper envelopes that all seem fine. Will be moving all that into sleeves.

    Based on that I will be placing all coins/bills in modern cases. Any packaging that had mold will be discarded and replaced. All the staples in the 2x2s have rusted so I won't use anything with staples anymore. I just can't see taking the risk and having another problem later on.
     
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  7. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    do what id do core a hole in the safe to allow no air build up.. then decassant pacts, pretty much yea
     
  8. leaconcen

    leaconcen learning constantly

    Just checked some of my safe contents and it looked okay. Did see that the silver has toned more. Just bought a lot of desiccant which should be here tomorrow. Not sure if I can drill a hole into the safe though.
     
  9. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Wow that's to bad
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Don't use the Sentry safes, I've tried everything over the years, it doesn't help. And when I tried it, I lived in Utah, the second driest state in the country.
     
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  11. leaconcen

    leaconcen learning constantly

    Want to thank the flyliner who began this thread. You have done a service for people who may have sentrysafe safes.
     
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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I would not! The hole would expose the inside of the safe to the moisture rich fire retardant as it resides between the outer and inner metal walls. It might dehydrate during the hot dry weather , but rehydrate in the reverse.
     
  13. leaconcen

    leaconcen learning constantly

    You are probably right. Some of my medals were in an airtite and then in an airtite tube and it still toned some. Need to look for a better safe. Suggestions?
     
  14. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    The Greenish-Blue looks like PolyVinyl Chloride reaction.

    Seen it before, and had PVC reactions in INorganic Chemistry, but still afraid to do anything to 3 Proof Clads that took a hit from it..............

    Take them to a Chemistry professor at any local college. I'd imagine they'd know as safe a cleaning agent as any other.
     
  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Lea check in your area as to a lock and safe company. You may consider a gun safe. As they seem to be dryer because of the gun medal would rust and corrosion would not be good for a gun barrel .
    And Lea you can sell your safes to off set the cost of a new one.
     
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  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    [QUOTE="leaconcen, post: 2211445, Not sure if I can drill a hole into the safe though.[/QUOTE]


    No don't even try,you may be able to but then you compromise the safe,only helping the bad guy to omitting the first step .
     
  17. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE



    Why not use a safe deposit box at your bank?
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    And what the devil is this 'yeast spray' stuff? That's a new one on me.

    We baking bread?
     
  19. Flyliner

    Flyliner Member

    Unfortunately I'm glad I could help...


    I'm researching this right now. There are a lot of good options from Liberty, AmSec, Cannon etc. My biggest concern is the fire protection material they all seem to come with. Apparently it is designed to "steam" when it gets hot enough, and the chemical glues are formaldehyde based.


    I prefer to have them at home, just chose the wrong safe to do it with.
     
  20. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Personally i wouldnt do it i dont trust banks with my money let alone a coin collection.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are many threads discussing the subject, just do a search for them to find them. That said, I've had an Amsec safe for many years, never had a problem with it. They have a good burglary rating and fire rating, but are not cheap. 'Course ya get what ya pay for.

    And it's not what happens inside the safe in the event of a fire that you need to worry about, that is supposed to happen. It's what happens during all the time when there is no fire that really matters when it comes to coin storage. And in that regard the better Amsec models are superior.
     
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