Are We Sick and Tired of Ptolemaic Aes yet?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Aug 6, 2015.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Or can I post this newp?

    ptolemy new.jpg

    Ptolemaic Kingdom, Ptolemy VI Philometor and Ptolemy VIII, 170 - 164 B.C., Bronze[​IMG]AE 30, Svoronos 1424, SNG Cop 306 ff., Noeske 212 ff., Hosking 75, Weiser 142 (Ptolemy V, 180 - 176 B.C.), SGCV II 7900
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Of course you can. You know there are beaucoup big bronze lovers here :).

    Nice one! Is it from a fixed price store, eBay, or other?
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's from FORVM. I just decreased the luminosity on their image. This one adds a new denomination to my collection, along with a new reverse type and new emperors. Killed three birds with one stone.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    [​IMG]
    PTOLEMAIC KINGS OF EGYPT
    Ptolemy VIII Euergetes II
    145-116 BCE, Alexandreia mint
    AE28, 29.1 gm
    Obv: Diademed head of Zeus-Ammon right
    Rev: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ BΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ; Two eagles with their wings closed standing left on thunderbolt; cornucopia to left
    Ref: Svoronos 1424B (Joint reign of Ptolemy VI and VIII); Weiser 142 (Ptolemy V); SNG Copenhagen 308-310 (Joint reign of Ptolemy VI and Ptolemy VIII); Noeske 212-5 (Joint reign of Ptolemy VI and Ptolemy VIII); Lorber & Faucher Series 7C
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have only the one I have shown many times before. I like these, but I do not actively seek them (obviously).

    Nice looking coin JA. What's the size and weight?
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Bravo TIF, love that one. There has been conjecture among scholars that the two eagles represent the joint reign of Ptolemies 6 and 8.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    30, 30. Same denomination as TIF's.
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Big, big!
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I consider it medium, but I look for good coins among these, rather than size - although I would eventually like examples of the largest ones. Who wouldn't?
     
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  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I can't get enough!

    When I saw that picture I thought "That coin looks familiar" and was one I was eyeballing. Glad it got a good home. By decreasing the luminosity you made it look much better.
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    VERY, VERY nice examples JA and TIF.

    I recently posted my lower grade example, but it's about the same 'size' as both of yours---AE28 and about 30 grams and it's also my understanding that the two Eagles represents joint rule, but I'm glad to 'hear' it mentioned ...

    Here's mine, also from Forum (Auctions):
    ptolemyVI.jpg
     
  13. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    My only "two eagles" Ptolemaic. Not even fully attributable as far as I can tell. I definitely want to pick up a better one at some point. This one is around 24mm and 9 grams if memory serves correct, but I apparently never wrote the measurements down.
    combined.jpg
     
  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Sorry if I grabbed it out from under you! FORVM's got some very good deals on Ptolemaics these days, hard to resist.
     
  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I don't have a two eagles yet...

    Think on PtolemyBronze.com there's some discussion about the two eagles not meaning joint rule. I can't read the article right now :mad:
     
  16. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    My wish list is full of 'em!
     
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Excellent win with great colour and details!
     
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  18. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Ptolemy's never get old. :D Nice pieces guys!
     
  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice!! => JA, that's a fantastic double-eagle Pt-VI (congrats ... great eye appeal)

    Man, I almost forgot that I owned this double-eagle winner (I keep forgetting to post it with my other Ptolemy coins) ...

    => wait-up, here is my example!!


    Ptolemy X AE24
    Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Ammon Zeus
    Reverse: Two eagles on thunderbolt.
    Date: 116-80 BC
    Diameter: 23.9 mm.
    Weight: 8.8 gr.

    zeusa.jpg zeusb.jpg

    :rolleyes:
     
  20. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Great horn on that one Steve!
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

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