Plain old Silver .25?

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  1. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    Oh, and both leaves angle left, but on the proof the tip of the leaf actually makes contact with the letter A in DOLLAR
     
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  3. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    If you're so certain it's not a regular 64, why solicit so many opinions?
     
  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    What big windfall? A proof 64 is very common and pretty inexpensive. Though it doesn't look like a proof or SMS to me, but I could accept a PL strike from a fresh set of dies as an explanation. It could just be polished, but it doesn't really have that look to me. There tends to be some flatness around the devices when a coin is polished and this seems pretty uniform.
     
  5. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    I'm NOT certain in the least Yankee - I can't rule ANYthing out so far...

    Only thing for CERTAIN is a ridge between 'A' and the leaf.

    I was looking for marginal concurrence of an observation made by a relatively knowledgeable dealer on the F/B page.

    Trying to get better snappics here....................
     
  6. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    One easy diagnostic to distinguish Type B Proof Reverses hasn't been shown in photos thus far, so I'll add two images of 1956 quarters:

    1956 Washington Quarter (Type A or Normal Reverse)

    1956 Washington Quarter - Reverse.png

    1956 Washington Quarter (Type B or Proof Reverse)
    1956 Type B Washington Quarter - Reverse.png

    OP's coin
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    Note the much sharper corner on the eagle's left wing tip (viewer's right.) On Normal Reverse quarters, it will be noticeably weaker, fading into the fields in varying degrees, depending on strike. With many photos of Washington Quarter reverses like the Type A (including my own, probably taken quite some time ago) the light isn't always in the best position to show proper detail for the STATES or Leaf/A of DOLLAR connection. However, that sharp corner is usually a dead giveaway of a Type B Proof Reverse. The OP's coin is clearly not a proof or Type B reverse (you can also easily see that the Leaf/A connection isn't there.)
     

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  7. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    Best I can do here...

    The leaf appears OVER the arrowheads. The 'A' tip angles left, with a clear ridge, TO the leaf.

    ed.: Remember stl - I pulled this coin from circulation............
     

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  8. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    What are you thinking of leaf-arrowhead overlap [?] (given pic quality) ?
     
  9. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    Anyone see 'ES' separation here? (from 'STATES')
     

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  10. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    No not like this proof example
    ESSeparate.jpg



    Here's my diag pic of your coin with the proof PUPs for reference

    opcointalknotproof.jpg
     
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    phankins11 Well-Known Member

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  12. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I don't think your coin matches any of the diagnostics for a Type B Proof reverse, circulated or not. My vote is still for regular 90% silver quarter.
     
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  13. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    agreed with @stldanceartist ....

    And let me say this...I'm sure I confused you and the matter quite a bit yesterday trying to diag on a phone screen and think out loud so to speak in my first post yesterday. I apologize.
     
  14. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    No need to apologize phankins.

    Mine DOES have a ridge between 'A', and leaf - there is NO doubt about that. If it didn't, then I'd know with relative certainty that it's circulation strike.

    The image that I posted, asking if 'ES' was separated, is from this (below; SMS):

    The likelihood that mine is SMS is small. I can't, AND WON'T, say that mine is not SMS.

    I'm going to send it to an ANACS member soon here...
     

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  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    What do you mean "an ANACS member" because as far as I know, the ANACS Grading Service does not have "members"?

    If you are going the ANACS route, just submit it for grading and specify the variety attribution research option for an additional $12.

    What you DON'T need, is somebody telling you their "non-professional" opinion on the coin and then relaying what was said here.

    What you DO need is to submit the coin for "professional" evaluation and attribution and then post the "results" here.
     

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  16. nuMRmatist

    nuMRmatist Well-Known Member

    ANACS / PCGS / NGC - some kind of affilite Lyds. Some of us [me] makes a few more mistakes than others... Talked with him a few weeks ago about the fake '22 no D.

    He said he'd send off coins for grading, as SOME authorized agent. Turns out he went to high school with my sister.

    Anyway, waiting for him to get back to me on new snappics here...
     
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