It says MS67 but it looks more like 63? It's also got a green star and CAC!

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  1. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

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  3. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I think the entire slab is scratched and that's what makes her look bad. Look at the right edge of the holder, scratches are clearly visible there.
     
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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It's also got a green star and CAC!

    The green star was put there by the seller
     
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  5. coin_analyst

    coin_analyst Member

    Basically what micbraun said. But I also don't think it's worthy of a 67. I expect near perfection out of an 80-S. IMHO you have to take the date/MM into consideration.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I got a green star in kindergarten a long......long time ago.
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'm hoping it's the pic and a bad slab . But just going by the pic it's a 63 at best . CAC has stickered some ugly coins .
     
  8. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    What is a green star?
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Something you get in kindergarten........
     
  10. Nevadabell

    Nevadabell A picture of me.

    That's a mighty fine Morgan, but for me after MS65 the grading gets difficult. It's at least a MS65, maybe a MS66.
     
  11. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Looks better than MS63, but it doesn't look like a 67 or even a 66 to me. I hope one of the posters who suggested scratches on the slab is correct. If not, it is an embarrassment to CAC and NGC.
     
  12. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Daaaaaammn. I didn't know kindergartners were into collecting Morgans (or afford them!).
     
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  13. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I skipped kindergarten, but when I was that age, mint state Morgan Dollars were running about $10 or so each. That doesn't sound too bad if you give your kids an allowance (but granted you wouldn't be buying choice, gem, or better material).
     
  14. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    I got gold stars in kindergarten, but I digress. ;)

    All kidding aside, I can see the slab is very scratched - but I'm trying to look through that, and it really looks bad. I'm just really shocked at this one.
     
  15. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It's probably a combination of a bad image a scratched slab, but it also suffers from what I consider 1880-s grading. They are just too common in high grades and seem to get a bump up here and there just because. If this were a grade that would have shifted the value tremendously like some other dates, no way it gets a 67.
     
  16. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    A pain in the butt to find in Super Mario Galaxy 2.

    (I hope someone appreciates this reference!)
     
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  17. Nevadabell

    Nevadabell A picture of me.

    According to NGC's price guide, there are exactly four MS67 morgans that are valued at under $1,000. They are the 1879S, 1880S, 1881S, and the 1882S.
     
  18. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    That green star reminds me of this silly yellow star that's on the slab of my 1904-O. I was specifically hunting for a rainbow toner dated 1901-1904 for my type set, and, because the obverse was nicely toned, I asked what the star meant. Turned out it was there to remind the dealer that both sides were toned! I ended up buying that coin. :) Sometimes, it pays to ask what the sticker means.
     
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  19. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Geen18; That was for attendance.
     
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  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A bump up ? The early S Morgans are one of the few coins that were always graded tougher, more strictly, precisely because they were so commonly found in nice condition. What would be a 66 in another date/mint would only be a 65 or even a 64 in an early S Morgan.

    This coin, they just flat screwed up with the grade, big time. I'd say the true grade of this coin is a 63. But another date/mint, it would be a 64.
     
  21. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I would want to see the coin in hand, but playing the guessing game with that picture I would put it 64 or so. Just my opinion.
     
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