Ok what can you tell me about this ?

I see a spot of the reverse side of the rim, need better images of this area

 

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I think it's just light reflecting here is no damages

 

I was hoping to see ragged reeds caused by the coin moving around in the collar. I can't really tell with that photo. It's still a nice find, though. I'd get it authenticated and, if it's a genuine error, send it off to NGC or PCGS for encapsulation.

 

If you don't ask, it's an automatic no. LOL

 

Yeah I think it's genuine error, I don't think anyone can make this error with out damage the coin, I will send to pcgs or NGC some day when I have more coins to summit.

 

Maybe you should send it to @mikediamond for attribution. I'm surprised nobody mentioned him or Ken Potter yet.

 

Someday?? 8 years you had this and now you show us????
Do you have any other coins with 'issuses'?
Heck I send that dude in all by himself...
very nice coin you have there...good luck

 

I don't see the point of sending it to anyone other than one of the grading services. They can attribute the error. Personally, I think it is a Mint error. Exactly what type of error, I don't know, but it does have at least four strikes on the reverse. Nice find!

Chris

 

The TPGs will not attribute an error unless it is recognized and listed by someone like Diamond, Potter or Wexler.

 

Yes I have some others proof dollars with issues also I keep it for 8 years now . I like keep coins don't mean I have to show it

 

And with incomplete flattening of the earlier strikes? I agree questionable. Looks like something made using a "soft" fake die.

Press the quarter against the end of a brass rod. The quarter will create in incuse impression in the end of the rod. Shift the rod and press again. The brass "die" will create a raised impression on the coin (while receiving another incuse impression itself.) but it isn't hard enough to flatten the original image on the coin. Rotate the "die" again and repeat. You end up with multiple raised impressions (one strong the others weaker) without the early impressions being crushed. Can't guarantee that is what this is but that is how something like this could be created.

 

I don't think some one make this way, if someone use soft fake die to created this kind error look it will damage and cover up th original die struck . Also you should see those images are under original struck . Not un top of it . That means it was here before the last struck form die .

 

If someone made that wouldn't they have kept it its pretty good job and a lot of time, I would think. Anyways very nice perfect photos and nice find keep it another 8 years and show us again see what ones says.

 

Go post it on coneca forum and if you post it, either Ken Potter or Mike Diamond will show up ....

 

Conder101 is absolutely correct. The reverse face was struck by a counterfeit die of relatively soft consistency while the obverse face rested on a smooth surface (hard wax, leather, etc.) The soft, blended overlap between the extra design elements and the genuine first strike is characteristic of such crude counterfeits.

 

As you say if it was use fake die and ( hard wax , leather, etc . ) does it will also remove the original luster ?

 

I think that it may be authentic, but I need the coin in hand to absolutely determine that. So with that in mind, you can send it to me at..... oh heck, I wouldn't even fall for that!

 

Evidently not. None of the many similar counterfeits I've encountered suffered a loss of surface luster.

 

It really hard to believe someone can create this kind error with out damage the coin and still keep original luster .

 

Yeah let's me think about it