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  1. BrandonK4444

    BrandonK4444 New Member

    Please Help... I purchased 40- $1000 boxes of Presidential Golden Dollars as an investment. They vary in Presidents, I think it is the first 8. The bank has them up as collateral on a loan and will apply them at face value to what I owe. I have 1 week to try and sell them for more than face value. What can I do, if anything? They are in sealed US mint boxes like the one in the picture. The box in the picture got dropped. The 40 boxes I wish to sell are mint in a bank vault. Please, any advice would be appreciated.
     

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  3. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    They aren't worth anything over face value, so you might as well use them to pay off your loan. How'd the bank end up with them?
     
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  4. BrandonK4444

    BrandonK4444 New Member

    Really? there's no added value in the sealed US Mint boxes.
     
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  5. BrandonK4444

    BrandonK4444 New Member

    Bank's got em in the vault for me. Secure Storage. No offense, but I sure hope I get some other opinions. Even if I can gain a dime for every dollar somehow. That's 4 grand.
     
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  6. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    You might be able to get a few dollars over face if you sell them by the roll on Ebay, but you definitely wouldn't have them sold within a week. They minted literally hundreds of millions of them, so there's no real collector value yet. Maybe 20 years from now or so there will be.
     
  7. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    You could make some short sets and sell them at a bit of a profit, or you could check for missing edge lettering. Both will take a bit of time, but could earn you a few bucks.
     
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  8. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    jlogan -- Love your AVATAR!! I sure hope we can always display such images in this country.One for Lee.

    As to the dollars: well you are stuck with them. I know of no dealers interested in such a lot. You might try bidding them off at Heritage or Stacks? But then you would have to have a very high reserve, which would be very unattractive to bidders. I do not think a bank would go along with that. Accept the fact that they are each $1,000. No loss, no gain, that's not so bad.
     
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Cash them in. Fees and shipping kill any chance of making anything over face value. Sorry but that's my opinion.
     
  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    You can turn lemons into lemonade, if you know what your doing ..
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    use the to pay the loan, in 200 years you may have made a profit on them.

    Punt
     
  12. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    I know of no worse investment than the Presidential Golden Dollars, honestly.
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    You're unlikely to ever gain more on them than you're losing by paying interest on the loan, not to mention whatever the secure storage has been costing you.

    The phrasing of your question, though, makes me think that you're in trouble on the loan (the bank is "applying" your collateral to what you owe). Don't look to profit on these as a way out of that. Apply them at face value, and consider yourself lucky to be out from under them.
     
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  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If they are being held as collateral I don't see any way you could sell them to begin with. Let the bank have them and count your blessings. Any loss you incur was inevitable from the moment you bought the things. But at least the loss can be used as a tax write off.
     
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  15. littlehugger

    littlehugger Active Member

    Good advice here.
    You could probably sell them over time on Ebay, by the roll, advertising the potential of finding ultra high grade errors, or putting away a roll of high grade coins. But it would take quite awhile and I doubt you would net more than a couple hundred in profits after all. Pay the loan at face value with them. Let the bank deal with it.
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I agree with everything that's been said. They are worth a dollar.
     
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  17. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    As of yesterday, I see only one dealer on the teletype systems buying the early issues that were meant to be used for circulation and only the following. JQ ADAMS, JACKSON, VAN BUREN, HAYES. I am not sure what they are paying but it won't be over 10¢ over face and not in unlimited quantities.
     
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  18. 712

    712 Constatutionalist, U.S.N. Viet Nam vet 66'

    What a dilemma,
     
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  19. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Teletype!?!?!?! :brb: What the hell?
     
  20. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    Let 'em go - it'll be a weight off your shoulders and vault. 40,000 must weigh a LOT! I agree with everyone else. Sales/auction fees and shipping would overwhelm any small profit that you could possibly make.
     
  21. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    I still call them "teletype" but the years of the huge, green printers and the clatter of incoming bulletins has been long, long gone.

    Of course they are now internet platforms.
     
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