Take your shot at these two 8 Reales coins. I'm not giving you much to work with - I know the pictures are bad. Both have nice toning and traces of luster on the obverse and some pretty good luster on the reverse. I present to you... Coin #1: Coin #2:
I love them, super history and nice chunky size. The 1799 looks like my "AU Details" example, so that shall be my guess on it. AU-53 on the 1789.
Thanks for playing, folks. My images did not help much, I think I dropped my camera one too many times. ANACS AU53 and AU50.
Slabbed is the only way to go with these 8 reales coins. They gotta be one of the most faked coins in the hobby.
Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the bottom coin says Carolus IV, but actually bears the image of Charles III? Did it just take a few years after news of his accession before Spain delivered a picture of Charles IV to Mexico?
It did take a while for the official portrait to arrive. Bear in mind that Spain, over time, reduced resources sent to the colonies and in some cases left quite a few of the bureaucracies to their own devices, which is one of the reasons why Mexico, Central and South America became independent in the early part of the 19th century.