Help on spot removal

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Mojavedave, Jul 4, 2015.

  1. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I have this lusious 1938-D brilliant uncirculated buffalo. Only one thing wrong. It has dark spots on Obv & Rev. I want to try to get it back to its original charcter without losing the brilliance. What would you suggest ?

    Dave
     

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  3. sambyrd44

    sambyrd44 Well-Known Member

    very tough and may not be possible. I would try an acetone bath maybe a day or so in a covered glass container. I doubt the spots will diminish but it is safe and one never knows.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I personally would not touch it ,leave it be. Not hat a 38 D is that valuable and could be replaced fairly easy. I picked up a nice toned one at the last show in Baltimore for $7.
    Not having the coin in hand I'm thinking carbon spots.
     
  5. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    Good advice. If they are carbon spots, live with it. If some sort of surface debris acetone soaking MAY help, nothing to lose.
     
  6. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    Try some steel wool and a light acetic acid solution......

    Just kidding, I would leave it be. Chances are if you were to remove them, you would still see remnants of them and the coin would be considered cleaned.
     
  7. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    The spots may not be beautiful, but they do give it character. Better character than if you cleaned it.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Based on the pictures I would say at one time that coin was completely (or very nearly so) black. Then it was dipped, which removed most of the black toning, leaving behind what you see now, and the underlying remaining luster.

    The only thing that will get the remaining black off the coin is to dip it again. But if you were to do that, then a good deal of the remaining luster, if not all of it, would also be removed.

    Best bet, sell the coin and buy another.
     
  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I would leave it alone. An acetone bath probably wont hurt it but it may make many tiny hits on the coin more visible. Any oil or stuff on the coin may be hiding tiny marks.
     
  10. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Here is a follow up on the spotted coin. I gave it an acetone soak for a couple of days and it helped about 80%. The reverse 95 %. After Aceton.jpg What do you think ?
     
  11. sambyrd44

    sambyrd44 Well-Known Member

    longer soak perhaps no down side. Its very tough the last resort may be a dilute dip it almost for sure though will hurt the luster may or may not remove the spots.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Can't really tell much from that last image.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If the acetone helped then it's likely that the spots were dip residue left behind.
     
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  15. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I wonder if I am being to critical looking at this coin with a digital microscope. The power is extream and the coin looks Magnificent in hand with great luster. Would the TPG's use magnification when grading ?
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    95% of their grading is done with the naked eye. Magnification, and then only 5x, is typically only used if they think they see a problem and need to verify it, or for grades 69 and 70. This is stated in the PCGS grading book.
     
  17. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Thanks much Doug. I can always count on you when I don't have a PCGS grading book handy. I have two other grading books, Photograde and NGC, but I haven't read how they grade coins.

    Dave
     
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