Scarce Trajan Decius

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  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I already had a decent Trajan Decius with a Genius reverse, but I was bored with it. I saw this listed on a dealer's site for a great price and unloaded my other for some profit and got this.

    I mainly wanted this for the reverse since it's a better Pannoniae with clasping hands compared to the other Pannoniae reverses.

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    Trajan Decius (249 - 251 A.D.)
    AR Antoninianus
    O: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG; radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right.
    R: PANNONIAE; the two Pannoniae, veiled, standing right and left facing one another, clasping right hands in front of standard between them.
    Rome Mint, 251 A.D.
    22mm
    3.2g
    RIC IV Rome 26
     
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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice coin. I do not have any of this type.
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I can't say I see anything boring about the genius type naming Illyrica or that I understand why Pannoniae shaking hands are better than those in other poses. RIC says they are rare? OK. Mine are from the group RIC assigns to the Milan mint but I believe that was found to be an error when someone found a die link between one of these short form obverses and a Rome style reverse. This is just another case where worshiping RIC is not a good idea. There are a lot of variations on a rather few basic types under Decius. Specialists might pay more unless they just find them accidentally which is always the best way to get 'rarities'.

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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I consider it scarce only because I couldn't find many others online. Not on CNG, other forvm members galleries and a few other places. I see the other types of Pannoniae everywhere.

    I also happened to like this reverse better then the Genius type.
     
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  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    This silver Tet is still in my possession. TrajDecius.jpg TrDeciusAR.jpg
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice lookin' trajan d mat! i recently posted my new (and only) trajan d...so i'll refrain from posting again.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Interesting Mat. I'm not certain I have ever seen any like it.
     
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Terrific coins Mat and Doug----and I don't see anything boring about either unless I had a pile of all the same types LOL...

    I really like 7-C's Tet as well.

    My Antoninianus has the Dacia reverse:
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I like that reverse type too.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    What emperor has more types naming specific places? TD got around for such a short reign.
     
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  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I like that type better too, nice find Mat. Heres my only TD

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  13. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

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    My only TD, looks like my two are not speaking, let alone holding hands


    Trajan Decius
    Coin: Silver Ant
    IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG - Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    PANNONIAE - The two Pannoniae standing front holding standards
    Mint: (249-251 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 4.66g / 24-22mm / -
    References:
    • RIC 21b
    • RSC 86
     
  14. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Doug Smith's coins are quite scarce and what makes them scarce is the obv. legend - IMP CAE TRA DEC AVG instead of the regular, common IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG.

    Here are some more scarce to rare Decius Ants:

    These have the rarest obv. legend: IMP TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, which is a short, early, fashioned after Philippus type obv. legend. These were both minted early in Decius's reign, sometime in the last quarter of 249AD.

    AR22mm 3.35g - DACIA type, RIC 2b (photo courtesy of Cerberus Numismatics)
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    AR22mm 3.73g - PANONIAE type (only one Pannonia), RIC 5
    (photo courtesy of H.D. Rauch)
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    And this one, which is also at least scarce - has a slight longer variation than the IMP CAE TRA DEC AVG, the IMP CAE TRA DECIVS AVG which is quite uncommon paired with the DACIA FELIX reverse. This was minted most likely in 250-251AD.

    AR24mm 3.51g RIC 37c (photo courtesy of US dealer)
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Great new coin, Mat! Interesting reverse.

    I have only this one coin of The Other Trajan. He looks rather sad about that :D.

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    Trajan Decius
    Rome mint, 249-250 AD
    antoninianus, 22 mm, 3.7 gm
    Obv: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG; radiate bust right, draped & cuirassed
    Rev: ADVENTVS AVG, Decius on horse riding left, with left hand raised in salute & scepter in other arm
    Ref: RIC 11b, RSC 4, Sear5 9366
     
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  17. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Im aware of the legends, Seth, but good reminder for others who don't know.

    And great additions everyone.
     
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