1964-D Kennedy DDO? Poss DDO-019?

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  1. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Well, I am not sure on that one, but maybe they can tell you how that works. I figure they have a professionally accepted way of doing it. It came out much better than it was :)
     
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  3. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    A bath in MS70 (which is basically soap and water) will loosen up the dirt on a silver / clad coin so it can be rinsed off.

    A quick dip in E-Zest will remove the outer layer (skin). If the time of the dip is too long and not properly rinsed off, the chemicals in the dip will eat away at the outer lay ruining the coin (in my opinion).
     
  4. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    Examples of a quick dip in E-Jest. Pick this coin up on eBay in an old ANACS holder PR66:

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    After about a 5 second bath in E-Jest, 15-20 second rinse from warm tap water and then a finial rinse in distilled water – packaged and sent to PCGS for grading and True View Photo (Upgraded to PR67):

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  5. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    Not my coin, but newly listed on eBay with a BUY IT NOW for $14.95. So yes, minor varieties for 1964-D not listed in the Cherrypickers' Guide, even in low uncirculated condition, are not worth much more the 25 - 30 dollars.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-D-Kenn...se-Uncirculated-Condition-3288p-/111707126494?
     
  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It sure did, it looks great!
     
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  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's DDO-003 (language)
    1964-D
    DDO-003

    Designation:

    3-O-V-CCW from K-11; FS-50-1964D-103 (13.5)



    Description:

    Strong spread on date, IN GOD WE TRUST, and L and TY of LIBERTY, with triple on WE TRUST and hair above and behind the ear



    Grade:

    MS65



    Population:

    15



    Markers:

    Master Die / Master Die

    UVC-043

    DMR-005

    Stage A:

    EDS (unconfirmed)



    Stage B:

    Die scratches South-Southwest around B of LIBERTY – MDS

    Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G) – MDS

    Reverse is LISTED as RPM-006

    Heavy die gouge North from upper Left E of STATES to rim



    Stage C:

    Obverse and Reverse are LDS
     
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  8. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    (language) Even the description you quoted says “… triple on WE TRUST and hair above and behind the ear”.

    PCGS coin number 96707 is the 1964-D DDO-003. Even on the Coin fact page you site, not once does it say DDO-014. Feel free to look in the PCGS Population Reports to see where #96707 is.
     
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  9. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    Just in case you can not connect the dots ..... PCGS Coin Number 96707 is the variety in post 47 that you sited in post 58 when you told the OP "I'm pretty sure it is the one in post 47".
     
  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Again, image in coin fact says TDO, theres no way around that .. Don't really care about anything else . Maybe you should call PCGS and tell them about your concerns with their coin fact page ...
     
  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here, I'll do it for you (language)


    1964-D 50C Tripled Die Obverse (Regular Strike)
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    PCGS MS65
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    CLOSE-UP OF TRIPLING
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    PCGS MS65
    PCGS #:
    96707
    Diameter:
    31.00 millimeters
    Designer:
    Roberts/Frank Gasparro
    Weight:
    12.50 grams
    Edge:
    Reeded
    Mintage:
    156,205,446
    Metal Content:
    90% Silver, 10% Copper
    Auction Record:
    $317 • PCGS MS65 • 7-28-2013 • Great Collections
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  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Hey (language) a MS-65 sold for 317 dollars in July of 2013 ..
     
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  13. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    (language) PCGS coin # 96707 is the same variety as PCGS coin # 146010, they both are the CONECA 1964-D DDO-003 or also known as the FS – 13.5 or FS – 103. Are you with me so far?

    Yes, the 1964-D FS-103 has tripling on WE TRUST as illustrated in the photos you posted from Coin Facts.

    The photos you posted has nothing to do with the 1964-D DDO-014. Are you still with me?

    As you pointed out, a MS65 version of this variety (FS – 103) is worth more than a MS63 example the OP asked about. I assure you that the PCGS graded MS66 that I have is worth considerately more than the MS65 examples you sighted. I hope even you can realize that the value of an MS63 coin is worth less than a MS65.

    Below is a snap shot of my screen showing what coins # will go into the slot for the 1964-D TDO FS-103.

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    (language)


     
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  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Again, you better get a hold of PCGS and tell them their cherry picker number does match coneca number. Just another mistake by PCGS, does that surprize you ..
     
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  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Heres the cherry picker number PCGS is using from coneca data base ..
    964-D
    DDO-003

    Designation:

    3-O-V-CCW from K-11; FS-50-1964D-103 (13.5)



    Description:

    Strong spread on date, IN GOD WE TRUST, and L and TY of LIBERTY, with triple on WE TRUST and hair above and behind the ear



    Grade:

    MS65



    Population:

    15



    Markers:

    Master Die / Master Die

    UVC-043

    DMR-005

    Stage A:

    EDS (unconfirmed)



    Stage B:

    Die scratches South-Southwest around B of LIBERTY – MDS

    Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G) – MDS

    Reverse is LISTED as RPM-006

    Heavy die gouge North from upper Left E of STATES to rim



    Stage C:

    Obverse and Reverse are LDS
     
  16. Caleb

    Caleb Active Member

    There is no mistake.... Both PCGS coin numbers are the same "critter". PCGS did the same thing with 1974-D DDO, the 1964 AH Proof and the 1979-s & 1981-S T2 (they all have two PCGS coin numbers)

    EDIT TO ADD: One PCGS coin number will cost you $18 to have the FS number on it and the other PCGS coin number is free without the FS number.
     
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  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Just take everything like a grade of salt ...
     
  18. Yogui66

    Yogui66 New Member

    Rick I have 8 or 10 1964 Kennedy in perfect conditions and not sure about grading. You think thats a good idea?
     
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