This week's "Car Talk" puzzler (involves counterfeit coins)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Dougmeister, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    RAY: This puzzler came to us from Clive Woods. Clive writes:

    “I work in the Anti-Counterfeit Department of the U.S. Treasury. The other day, my assistant was sent 100 U.S. quarters, and he found that 10 of them were booooogus.

    “He sorted the 10 bogus coins into one pile, and being an organized sort of chap, he made 9 piles, each containing 10 of the real coins. The weight of the counterfeit coins in this case was different from the weight of a real quarter by 1 gram. However, he forgot whether it was 1 gram more or 1 gram less, but, he knew that the bogus coins were all 1 gram heavier or 1 gram lighter than the real coins.

    “He was called away to another job, and he left the 10 piles on his desk. I had to determine which was the bogus pile. To do it, I had a calibrated scale that would tell me the weight placed on it within a fraction of a gram. The question is, how could I figure which was the pile of bogus coins in one weighing?”

    http://www.cartalk.com/content/counterfeit-quarters?question
     
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  3. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    Gosh, that's tedious and boring! Besides that, my attention span is..... what were we talking about again?
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Being an organized chap, he placed the stack of counterfeit coins on a slip of paper with a "C" on it.

    Chris:woot:
     
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  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I know! I know!

    Of course I'm not going to post it here. I want to win that Car Talk Plaza parking permit myself! ;)
     
  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    That's easy. Take one coin from each stack and put it on the scale. Take away one coin at a time and note the new weight and thus the weight of the coin. Eventually, you'll find out which was off by a gram. Now, what did I win?
     
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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Same as seattle, expect in the opposite direction.

    Put on one coin, then add one at a time, stop when the weight is wrong, that is the bogus pile
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I don't think that counts as "one weighing".
     
  9. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Dang. I thought by "in one weighing" they meant weighing each stack one time.

    Edit: what @-jeffB said
     
  10. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Take one coin from pile 1, 2 coins from pile 2, 3 from pile 3, etc. Weigh the bunch of them. If they were all good, they would weigh 55*good grams. The amount they're off of that (in either direction) will tell you which pile had the bogus coins.
     
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  11. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    take 1 coin from pile 1, 2 coin from pile 2, etc.

    place them on the scale and do the math.
     
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  12. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    why not just call him on the phone an ask him which pile is bogus?
     
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  13. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    Get an intern to do it?
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Aw, man, now everybody will send in the right answer.

    But I'll bet nobody else mentioned weight loss due to coin wear. ;)
     
  15. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Too late. The shows you're hearing today are reruns. Since Tom Magliozzi died, there have been no new radio shows.
     
  16. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I think this is actually the best answer!
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I was confused. If you go to the page where you can submit an answer online, they mention a nominal prize (the "parking pass"), different from the "Shameless Commerce Division" gift certificate they always mentioned on the air.

    I saw that this question only mentioned Ray, so I thought maybe they were still posting new puzzlers. But I just looked at last week's, and it includes a recorded segment with the answer, featuring both brothers. So I guess the puzzlers are reruns, too.

    This is one advantage of not having total recall -- even the stuff you've heard before can seem new! :)
     
  18. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Those shows and the website are still fun even though I've seen and heard it all before.
     
  19. stewart dandis

    stewart dandis Well-Known Member


    :D.....lmao
     
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