Well that didn't take long, 1884CC GSA MS68 shows up on eBay

I remember reading about this coin being graded the highest known example of a GSA CC dollar like last month. Well here she is in all her glory all $175k worth.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-CC-Mor...aff0d1b&pid=100009&rk=1&rkt=1&sd=201375453943

DREAMS

 

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I would of said MS66, I guess there is not much difference in coins between a 65 and 68, except the price

 

Not my favorite coin.... especially at the price.

 

68 seems very generous to me.

 

I agree with others. I opened up the image and did not see what I would either expect in a 68, nor did I see a coin I personally would grade a 68. Its a nice one, above average, but 65-66 is all I see personally.

 

Anyone find the toning pattern attractive? I think it's neutral at best. 68? If the toning isn't a SUPER POSITIVE, that shouldn't crack 66+ (with the pics I can't zoom in on provided by the seller) ... maybe I'll pull up the NGC verification photo...

Here we go... Images taken from verification page:

84ccOBV by miedbe7 posted Jun 28, 2015 at 9:06 PM

84ccREV by miedbe7 posted Jun 28, 2015 at 9:06 PM

What do ya'll think with these photos?

edit: with the new photos I can see 67.

 

Generically, my belief is at best toning should be neutral to a grade. One could make a fair point all toning, since it's surface corrosion, should automatically be a deduct to a grade, but I am not advocating that. However, to increase a grade on a toned coin versus a white one would be ridiculous.

 

Ngc 68, that explains it all .. Send it to pcgs, then if it hits 68, you might make me a believer .... Thats just my opinion .....

 

I remember when NGC was grading coins ( Morgans ) for the coin vault, o-how I laughed at the grades some of the coins came back at ... Let alone they were cleaning them too, some folks were tring to cross-over to PCGS with them . That didn't work out to good .. Lol ...

 

There are plenty of dogs in PCGS plastic too. I unfortunately bought one of them from a well known auction house without a return privilege only to find out the piece had altered surfaces. Don't drink the Kool-Aid.

With that said, I don't see this coin as anything special. I think a fair retail value would be $20,000-$25,000, and I still wouldn't pay that much for it personally.

 

My favorites from PCGS are the PF 65 1922 Peace Dollar with graffiti on it. I think the PCGS PF68 1804 Class I Dollar (now Pogue) has some graffiti on it too. Another one of my favorites was from a member on the PCGS Board (Braddick) who purchased a toned American Silver Eagle that PCI called AT and PCGS slabbed it as a problem free MS69. I think an overwhelming majority of posters would agree that the coin is AT if they had pictures. Maybe @Lehigh96 will have them.

 

P.S. I thought this coin had supposedly already sold. Was it returned? While the photos are better than the ones originally posted on their website, if you are going to ask $175k for a coin, I think you should have a professional photographer photograph it for you. The photos appear mediocre at best IMHO. If that is what the coin looks like in hand, it should be hard to sell.

 

NGC lists the coin at $57K. Why so much and why sell on Ebay and take that chance. You need some serious insurance.

 

Agreed, I'm not seeing MS68, but it is a very nice coin.

 

Maybe their saying the GSA slab graded 68, not the coin .. Lol...

 

terrible pictures for a coin of that "caliber"

 

I have no faith in NGC grading. I recently had a 2015 reverse proof dime graded 70 and I am no expert but did not even see a 70 in the grade maybe a 68 or 69, but no way a 70. It had spots and just not as nice as the ones I had from PCGS.
Honestly I was a little shocked to see it graded as a 70 IMHO.

 

Anybody remember the Pf 70 1963 Lincoln cent that PCGS had to buy ?
NGC should buy that coin for Fair Market Value as their guarantee implies.
Sellers such as this should be charged with numismatic terrorism and tried
by persons within this group.

 

I have gotten a few pcgs 70's 69's with milk spots ... I wouldn't have sent them to be graded myself , but got them cheap

 

I'm actually not aware of this; do you have a link or the scoop?