1875 Gold liberty half eagle cc $5

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  1. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    It is definitely worth sending to NGC to see if it can be holdered. If so, you have yourself quite a treasure.
     
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  3. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Smart move.

    I believe NGC has an option by which you can have the piece re-routed to their brother company NCS if it fails to "pass muster" with NGC.

    I would strongly recommend that, as there is a good chance you'll get bodybagged otherwise.
     
  4. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I would say that it might take a week...or alittle longer. They will send you the forms to write out but I would suggest going online and filling them out online. Not only will that make sure all of the $$ and $$ add up right but it will also take 10% off your bill.

    Speedy
     
  5. JennaTy

    JennaTy Member

    I did speedy I wen't on NGC site printed the forms with my ANA membership # and faxed them this morning.

    I hope it goes through with either NGC or NCS shortgapbob. I have been doing alot of research the last few

    days looking at cleaned coins and so on.. this coin does not look cleaned anywhere near what these other

    coins were, but we will see. What I notice most about my coin that is much different than all the

    other coins in this date from carson city is how detailed the hair and curls are compared to any other coin I

    have seen. She is a beauty!! Thanks everyone! Tommy
     
  6. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Yes, she is a beauty. Even if it were common date it would be a nice piece.

    Very few marks in the prime focal areas - Liberty's cheek and the fields in front and back. That mark in front of her lips eliminates any chance of a 63, but it could pull a 2 if not for the jewelry issue.
     
  7. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Steve,
    Today I had the chance to view your pictures on a very large, clear monitor. As CT mentioned, your coin has a monster strike, and that is unusual for the date. I took a closer look, and I noticed two areas that concerned me. My eyes have been wrong before, but I fear I may see a couple of rim spikes. I have circled them. If you can, please take a loupe and examine the area I circled, and tell me if it appears that there is a small, raised metal spike extending from the rim into the fields. I sincerely hope they are not present.
     

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  8. JennaTy

    JennaTy Member

    Well I just inspected the coin and it is dirt or "grime" on there zane there does not seem to be any spikes on coin at all. I have been trying to take better pics but I can't seem to get them they are coming out blurry.
    you said you inspected the coin on a bigger screen..everything else look good? I have recently found out
    that it is very very hard to find this coin in any condition, and alot of people are looking for it, so at least I have that going for me ;-) Thanks for looking zane, Tommy
     
  9. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Congrats on a beautiful coin...I'd suggest sending it to ANACS.
     
  10. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    That is a very nice coin,& from one of the scarcer mints too.You don't see many coins that were struck at the Carson City Mint these days.I did have an 1877CC Quarter a few years back,but lost in when my flat was broken into back in 2002.There was a worn,but unholed 1875S 20c. along with it as well.

    Aidan.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You been readin books again Zane ? :D

    Ya wanna know what bothers me most about this coin - the rims. It finally came to me tonight, been buggin me for days because I knew I was seeing something but I couldn't figure out what it was. But that's it - the rims. Take a look Zane.
     
  12. JennaTy

    JennaTy Member

    GDJMSP, I was just sitting here with my wife and I noticed the same thing I was just coming to post this also
    I finally found the ms63 on stacks that sold for 103,500 and it had a magnifine glass on the pic.. I noticed that it did not have the edges on the outside rim of the coin. My wife thinks it was in a slab and you could see the edges through the plastic holderr but I don't know. The ms 63 coin is on stacks.com site. Please get back to me soon on this I appreciate it. Tommy
     
  13. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I say look at some sold on heritage - the pictures are better. No matter what I would send it in to ANACS or NGC. Hope its real - looks nice.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A couple of things, those spikes that Zane was talking about are often hallmarks of a counterfeit. BUt the most obvious thing to me are the rims and denticles. I could accept a coin being struck slightly off center and the rims being very thin or even non-existant on one side. But if it were, then it should be the same on the opposite side as well. Not only is that not true here, but look at the reverse - there are 2 rows of denticles on a large part of the coin, one right on top of the other.

    Now, I've checked my books and I can't find anything to confirm it, but with a mintage of just over 11,000 it is likely all of these coins were struck with the same pair of dies. And all of the examples I have looked at the past few days have complete rims - this coin does not. And those 2 rows of denticles - I've never seen that before on any US coin.

    Sorry, but the odds are leaning towards this coin being a fake. Even so, it's worth having it checked to make sure. But don't get your hopes up too much. And don't be too dejected either. Even if the coin is genuine, in that condition, being ex-jewelry and being cleaned - I'd say max value would be about $3000. So it's not like you're out a hundred grand here. Even so - it sucks :mad:
     
  15. JennaTy

    JennaTy Member

    GDJMSP what are denticles? I feel so let down right now! I will be so upset if it is fake. It weighs exacly right
    It says in the description on the pcgs site.. Edges:Reeded is that the stars? Thanks for all your help, Tommy
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The arrows point to the denticles - there should only be 1 row of them, not 2. Look at the obverse and you'll see what I mean.
     

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  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Couldn't that area be from die chatter?
     
  18. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Doug,
    I've never seen doubled dentils like that, but I pulled up some heritage photos, and they exhibit doubled denticles on the reverse from 11-1 ocklock(for 1875-cc). As CT mentioned, these typically come weakly struck, whereas the coin pictured has a razor sharp strike in comparison. Overall, I find this coin to be somewhat of a conundrum. I'll be interested to see if NGC/NCS says.
     
  19. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    Has anyone heard the history of this coin? Was it purchased off of Ebay or handed down through a family for the last century? I am amazed this was in a bezel and worn as though it was just any other coin unless the person was very wealthy.
     
  20. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator


    Can't get enough of them :D
     
  21. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

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