NEWP: Ionia, Kolophon, 1/48 Stater

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This coin will now take the honor of being my smallest fractional Greek silver (5mm, 0.14g), and my oldest (530/25-500 BC). My first tentative step into the 6th-century BC - like I wasn't spending enough money on coins!

    kolophon small.jpg

    This is an exceptional example of the type, with a strong bust and sharp incuse punch. Compare to a recent CNG sale at a similar price (343, Lot 169). I think my coin is much nicer. It has the typical light porosity of very old, tiny silver, but the archaic bust of Apollo is quite well-defined, if a bit off-center, and the punch pattern is crisp.

    Let's see your smallest Greek silver!
     
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, that's miniscule! A small child breathing on it could blow it away... but you're right, the details are very strong. Very cool little fractional.

    My smallest is a almost monster in comparison.

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    MYSIA, Kyzikos (?)
    Circa 525 - 475 BC
    AR Hemiobol
    0.26g, 6.8mm
    Apparently unpublished, known from a h̶a̶n̶d̶f̶u̶l̶ thimbleful of examples.
    cf. CNG 213 Lot 151
    O: Head of Attis right, wearing Phrygian cap.
    R: Quadripartite incuse square.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That's a fantastic little coin!

    I have a Greek silver in the ~5mm range:

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    MACEDON, Pangeion region
    Uncertain mint, 5th century BCE

    AR trihemitetartemorion (trihemiobol), 5 mm, 0.26 gm
    Obv: monkey squatting left
    Rev: round shield or pellet within incuse square
    Ref: "Uncertain Thraco-Macedonian Coins, Part II", Nomismatika Khronika (1998), 67
    This enigmatic series showing a monkey squatting either right or left with a round shield on the reverse, is the only Greek coinage of the classical period to depict such an animal. Monkeys are known to have been kept as house pets in antiquity, but its significance in this context is unknown.

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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That is a lovely coin JA. Nicely struck and preserved.

    I'm pretty sure this is my smallest at 7mm:
    AEOLIS, KYME.jpg
    AEOLIS, KYME
    AR Hemiobol
    OBVERSE: Eagle's head left, KY to left (M beneath the head, nearly off flan)
    REVERSE: Quadrapartite incuse square of mill-sail pattern
    Struck at Aeolis, 450BC
    .46g, 7mm
    SNG Cop 32
     
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  6. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what great sharp details for such a little coin! super coin JA, love it!

    my smallest greek is my 11 mm boar/lion/tuna..but it seem to big for this thread!
     
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  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I always love when you post the big/small shot! I really think you ask everyone to find the small in the fibers of your carpet... do you still have the photo?

    The photo really emphasizes the importance of paying attention when handling trihemitetartemorions.
     
  8. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I am gonna say it again. Proof of optical magnification in the ancient world.
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thanks! Here's the carpet shot (immediately after receiving this coin and while showing it to a friend, I dropped it. Half an hour later it was found.)

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    (The coin is in the upper right quadrant. If you divide the picture into 9 portions by drawing two vertical and two horizontal lines, the coin is near the intersection of the uppermost and rightmost line).

    ...

    I meant to edit the coin description, deleting the supposed denomination and simply leaving it as AR5.
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's hard to imagine how dies for such coins were cut without some sort of magnification. When it arrives, I'd like to take a pic similar to TIF's, but my largest coin is only a sestertius of Gordian III. However, I'm going to be afraid of removing the coin from its flip for fear of losing it.
     
  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I see it! Lol - it's like ancient coin collectors' version of Where's Waldo.
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    The smallest I now have is of a Trihemiobol of Thasos, Thrace---Satyr and vase, circa 400 BC and of 12.3 mm and .86 grams.

    Unbelievably, even larger than a few posted....How did they do it?? DSCF0507.JPG DSCF0506.JPG LOL
     
  13. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Nice pint sized coins all. ;)
     
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  14. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Man that's small JA, super new coin, mine that i'll show is twice as big.

    Ionia, Ephesus.
    Bee
    Two stags
    10mm x 1g.
    Coin club,bee, zesus 017_opt.jpg
    Coin club,bee, zesus 018_opt.jpg
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Decisions, decisions. Every time this subject comes up I have to show my smallest diameter coin but it weighs twice what my smallest by weight does. When we get in this weight class thickness and condition count a lot. Under 5mm diameter:
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    Phocaea, Ionia - Silver 1/8 obol? - Late Sixth Century BC - 5mm, .1g
    Female head 'Smyrna type' left / 4 part incuse - Rosen 598

    Almost a full mm wider but weighing only 0.05g is the thing and flaking hexas of Syracuse. I suspect it would weigh close to 0.1g were it not for the loss to being buried in soil as are most of these little guys. People rarely hoarded a pot of a thousand of these. The were lost singly and suffered as expected from field find coins.
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    "Also ran" is this huge 0.2g tetartemorion of Hekatomnos, Satrap of Caria, 395-377 B.C. It is about the same diameter as the Syracuse but weighs four times as much despite the fact it also shows surface peeling ruining what I believe would have been one of the most beautiful tiny coins ever.
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    Notice the lower half of the reverse 3/4 face of Apollo still has its 'skin' but most of the surface has laminated revealing the reticulated core. There are better and worse both in grade and style. Finding the one I want will be hard. This is not bad:
    http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1822060

    A few others of my Tiny Treasures are here:
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/tiny.html
     
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  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I can't seem to keep up with the changing names of these fractionals. Tetartemoria? Fractions of obols? CNG and other dealers now call these forty-eighth staters. I suppose as long as we don't know what the natives called them, we'll continue making up names.
     
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  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I love this photo, and how you stitched it together to look like there are actually two coins sitting on the penny. Well-done!
     
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  18. coolhandred

    coolhandred Member

    I have a few of these little gems, however I am reluctant to take them out of their 2 x 2's as I fear I will drop them and they will be gone forever.

    I echo the opinion as to how the celators' created the dies without magnification. Whenever I am at a coin show I look for these little guys and luckily I have 5 of them in my collection.

    Whenever I show my collection to friends and family I bring them out very carefully, and non coin collectors are astounded by them.
     
  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Heck, I've been collecting for over 30 years and I'm still astounded by them.
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I've lost track, but I'm pretty sure that this wee lil' baby is still my smallest (and coolest)

    IONIA, Ephesos, AR Tetartemorion
    Circa 500-420 BC
    Diameter: 5 x 8 mm
    Weight: 0.17 grams
    Obverse: Bee
    Reverse: Head of eagle right within incuse square
    Reference: Karwiese Series IV; SNG Kayhan 126–34

    Ionia Ephesos Tetartemorion.jpg
     
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  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Steve, I think you have the tiniest one of all of us....Hmmm, is that good???:rolleyes:
     
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