I've been on the road this week, and I got these two 2015 Kisatchie's quarters in change. You'll notice one has a die crack running through the date and up wards EPU and that there are a few die chips. The next coin is one that has me scratching my head as it's PMD but not post has to be Pre mint damage as if you look at the date as well as the lettering you'll notice that the very heavy scratch that runs the entire diameter of the coin is under and not over or through the lettering. I have seen coins scared by counting machines. They are mostly semi circular and through the devices on the coin. Look at the date you'll notice that yes as there is some damage to the numbers but it's not on the number or through it. As well for the lettering on the coin. the top of the O in Louisiana. is in the area of the scratch but is not damaged by it. Images 1,2 ,& 3 are coin 1. The next coin follows the 3rd image.
Possibly planchette damage before the coin was struck. I just got my bag of these in the mail today. I'll be back Monday if I find anything.
The letters are incuse. The scratch isn't deep enough to show the damage where the lowest point is. I agree, coin counter damage.
All the ATB quarters devices are incuse on the outer part of the design. So just the higher areas on the coin would be affected by the wrapper damage.
I've never seen a coin counter or wrapper go completely around the edge of a coin. Mostly semi circular type scars,Plus I don't carry a loop with me on the road. Plus I really don't collect modern coinage. Other than bullion .
And they say you can't see the wind. Just opened my bag and found a doubling of the front claw on one.
Mike Diamond suggested in the thread I linked that it was due to contaminants smeared across the die prior to striking, probably from a dirty feeder. I still need to do careful images of the two examples I found to see how closely the damage matches. If it's grit and grease smeared across the die, I'd expect it to change substantially from strike to strike. Also, some of the detail in the disturbed area is definitely relief (not incuse), so it looks like gouges in the die.
I found a couple of the 2009 that was determined to be the same thing. The debris on the die was a bit stiffer on my examples. The coin was pressed deeper into the fields. But I have to say Mike probably is correct on this one.
Yes. When the devices are incuse, they are raised on the die. So the slightest die movement during the strike enlarges the incuse devices.
That does look quite similar to mine, especially the part behind Lincoln's back. Mine don't have the big incuse areas like you show to our left of Lincoln's right shoulder, or under his boot, though. Maybe mine were struck after the debris was all cleared, leaving only the scraped areas on the fields of the die.
