Question on coin's value

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by jwitten, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I was wondering what a fair price would be for this coin? I am still pretty new to ancients, so need all the advice I can get. Thanks!
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  3. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I have no idea about the value, but love the coin. One thing though, from a boy raised on a farm, that sure is a funny looking hog.
     
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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    C. Hosidius C.f. Geta
    68-64 BC
    Diana &Calydonian Boar w. Hound

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    my humble example => $213 (delivered)

    ... yours may be quite a bit more? (sweet style & toning)
     
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  5. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    That is the nicest example I've ever seen. With coins like this, there's no "fair price." It's simply worth what you're willing to pay. I think it could easily go well into 4 digits.
     
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  6. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    What could the range for these be? I like the design, and the toning is nice. I do not know how much the toning, strike, etc would add.
     
  7. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Yikes, too rich for my blood then! Good to know I have a good eye at least :) Now I need a good wallet!
     
  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That is a wonderful example of a fairly common issue. In a retail setting I wouldn't be at all surprised to see an asking of over $1000 for it, but you'll see from the link below that the closing prices at auction for more typical (but still very nice) examples are around $100 - $300:
    http://www.cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PAGE_NUM=&PAGE=1&TABS_TYPE=2&CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=3&IS_ADVANCED=1&ITEM_DESC=Hosidius geta 903&ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Beautiful coin . I'd pay about $300 .
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Very reasonable , I might look for a nice one .
     
  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Of course being the bottom feeder of the bunch, I have one I purchased for under $80 delivered. It's not near as nice, but it's mine and it didn't break the bank.
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  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    wow, that's a beautiful coin jwit!
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=96938
    The above sale of the coin for $550 in 2007 does not include buyer's fee and postage so the question is how much to add for eight years and how much to subtract for it having been slabbed. It is a very nice specimen. The question we all have to address is how much more to pay for a top of the heap beauty like yours and a $150 worn out dog of a coin like mine. The CNG result suggests it is a factor of 4X which I'd say is in line with the conservative market. I also believe there is someone out there that would pay $1000 for the coin not realizing just how many of them CNG has sold in recent years ranging down to $100 and very few higher than the $550. Some of them would pay the additional $400 or so for the slab. That does not make the coin worth $1000 but I would not be surprised if that is the asking price.

    I chose my dog and a half dozen similar denarii for the reasonable price of your coin. We each make our decision. Pay what you want.
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I re-imaged my "dog"
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  15. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Can you tell this is the same coin that sold in 2007?
     
  16. http://www.coinarchives.com/a/results.php?results=100&search=Hosidius AND Geta
    look at the 4th one down. Sold for nearly $1300 last month. I would still say yours is a nicer specimen (nicer toning and more centered strike.) Although, this may just be an example of 2 people fighting over a nicely toned coin, where money isn't the most important object. I could see myself paying 500-600 for the OP coin, but money is an object.

    Mike
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hmmm, all of the examples in this thread have GETA in front of Diana's face except for my sweet example (GETA is written behind Diana's head)

    ... when I look at the link in iamtiberius' post (directly above) and find other examples like mine that have GETA written behind her head, I also notice that the "dog" is a bit more sturdy than the dog shown in the examples with GETA in front of Diana's face (kinda interesting, eh?)
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Actually, your dog looks like a dog rather than a weasel like the one on my coin.
     
  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is my opinion. If it is not, then you need to explain some edge notches in the same places and other minor details without using the word fake. I do not believe the coins are fakes cloned from the same master but that both are the exact individual. Most sellers who have a CNG provenanced coin would know it and many would mention the fact in their listing unless they were also that large a seller. Are you buying it from a reputable seller? You have not said what the asking price is. If it is under $600, the coin may be stolen or was bought by a collector who died since 2007. I'd ask the seller what he knows about the provenance before I told him I knew about the 2007 sale. If this is in a big name auction, it will go over $1k.
     
  20. Dirk D

    Dirk D Active Member

    iamtiberius, no real battle over that coin, it went to an internetbuyer. The underbidder was an american dealer as I recall. Some other coins were really heavilly contested. I think it was about fair value (could have done maybe 100-150 less) for this coin as it has provenance: Leu 83,2002-chf 700 and NGSA 6,2010- chf 900.
     
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  21. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I do agree they look to be the same after comparing closely. Like I said, I know nothing about ancients. How did you even find the old sale? What does a CNG provenanced coin mean? Does it add to the value?
     
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