Here there is similar wording https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/f...july_-_december_1978pages_171-273.pdf#page=26 Page 52 into 53
Here is a link to the exact quote. It is an opinion only from 2014 and not part of the original 1977 decision. https://www.ftc.gov/policy/public-comments/2014/09/19/comment-00011
Not true it's on page 53 on the link I previously posted (#581), the wording is slightly different but it was the commissions finding which is the important part and here is the text screen capped from the FTC document.
It is more than slightly different. The original 1977 ruling did not use the same language as what was quoted here on CT. If you read my link, you will see that the quote is exact as what was posted. It is from the 2014 opinion piece not the 1977 ruling.
Yes, that's one place it can be found. But it is not part of the opinion written by Armen Vartian, it is a direct quote that Vartian referenced and taken from FTC doucuments, which are referenced by both he and I. What's more, and as I said, I have to believe that Daniel is well aware of that ruling and that is sets a specific precedent for what he does. Why ? Look here - https://www.ftc.gov/policy/public-comments/initiative-577 - at comments 1 & 2. Kind of hard to imagine how Daniel could not be aware given that.
Comment 1 seems to pretty much say it all. Kinda sounds definitive enough for my non professional opinion.
I may be missing something here but it looks to me as if Daniel is responding with a comment just like the lawyer did to a request for comments on the HPA from the FTC.
Your ignorance regarding bank notes is showing. Instead of trying to be "cute" why don't you offer some counter arguments that actually have substance?
Funny, that's not the impression I was getting. Besides, aren't the courts (specifically the HPA where litigation is encouraged and legally authorized in such cases) specifically designed to get folks to "see the light"? Given your legalese I would expect that you'd feel comfortable putting this subject to bed from a "legal" standpoint? But..........as is typical, folks with really hard stances against the Moonlight Mint, and who say "But this will ruin the Hobby!" just sit back and say "Not me! I'm just expressing my opinions." There's always someone out there willing to express how deeply they feel that this is an illegal activity and bodes ill for the coin collecting community and how somebody I going to make a grave purchasing error at some point in time, yet not one of you will actually step up to the plate and do something!
I think you misinterpreted what I wrote. Here is a clarification: A) About 20% of my total activity is producing fantasy-date over-struck coins. These are struck over genuine coins of the same denomination and usually the same design. B) About 35% of my activity is producing coin club medals and other commissioned works. C) About 45% of my activity is producing tokens and medals of my own conception and design. For (B) and (C) I use virgin blanks because these pieces do not have the appearance of any actual US coins. For (A) I only use genuine coins.