Just got the elusive 1916 Barber Half....

You must of missed his condescending use of "sir" at the end of every sentence.

 

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I realize you've a bit of a man-crush here, but let's be realistic. What reasonable or valid reason is there to bring any mention of race into this discussion, no less with the qualifier of "I don't see you complaining about that"? There is and was not, well, other than to continue the deflection, which clearly is Mr. Carr's MO. His same "point" could easily have been made without them, but no... I am the one "disparaging" poor, poor, Mr. Carr.

 

There are laws in China??..

 

First, you wrote:

Then I wrote:

So do you think "hobo" nickel carvers are robbing Fraser of his legacy for their personal gain ?

The hobo carvers are severely defacing the coin to where it looks a LOT different than what it was. With the over-strikes, I'm keeping the design the same as it was except for a date digit. I think that is more of a tribute to the original design than it would be if the design was significantly changed.

PS:
Personally, I think carved "hobo" coins and the like are neat. I did my first carved coin earlier this year:

 

If you take on old worn-out Ford Mustang (for example), and then pound out all the dents and restore it to like-new condition, but change the wheels to a Ford type that were not originally installed on Mustangs, is the resulting car a "COPY" of a Ford Mustang, or is it still a genuine (but altered/restored) Ford Mustang ?

 

I swear, CT should outlaw analogies. None of them translate. Ever.
When you buy a car it's yours to use and abuse any way you choose (as long as it passes state inspection). But U.S. legal tender money? Come on...

 

Man-Crush?

When a discussion turns to disparaging the participants via name calling and innuendo's, it's game over!

 

Ah, so this is the allegedly offensive comment. Man, it took me quite a while to find it. He never referenced it in his reply. But this must be it.

I know this, guys, for what it adds to the issue. Caucasian actors always played Native Americans in the old westerns. What does that tell you? Native American actors can't play good Native Americans.

 

It translates very well in this situation.
It is perfectly legal to deface US coins, except in these four instances.

1) if the alteration or defacement is for FRAUDULENT purposes.
The US Mint even underlines the key work "fraudulently":
http://www.usmint.gov/consumer/18USC331.cfm

2) Shaving metal off of coins. Technically, any type of intentional coin carving is illegal since it involves "lightening" of the coin. But nobody cares any more since this statute was enacted to prevent people from shaving a little gold or silver off of every coin that passed through their hands and then placing the coin back into circulation.

3) Affixing commercial advertising to money. It is against the law to put advertising on money and then place it into circulation. Remember the "Where's George" dollar bills ? The Secret Service asked them to stop doing that because their inked rubber stampings on the paper money amounted to commercial advertising of their web site.

4) It is currently against regulations to melt cents and nickels. Small-time hobby projects are still permitted, however.

So those coins made into jewelry, novelty counter-stampings, souvenirs, etc, are all ok.

 

I'll take 4 47 Frankies with no 'copy' word on them please.

 

And why would the word copy ruin them for you , I'd love to hear your reasoning ?

 

Because I want it to look like a authentic US Mint coin.

 

And if it does, I won't buy.

 

May he mint and sell some 47 Frankies for a ridiculous price to me....

the 64 Frankie was such a wonderful idea, especially if it was a 64 Kennedy being overstruck..... Lets see, eliminate a fugly hairyhead and replace it with a Frankie..

Heavensville daddy-o!

 

Your assertion is entirely contradictory. If my customers thought the prices were "ridiculous", then I wouldn't sell very many like you say I do.

In general, for the amount of effort it takes to design and/or engrave a die, my mintages are quite low.

 

Your opinion and reasoning does not change the fact that Daniel Carr is doing nothing more than an "alteration" of an existing Barber Half Dollar. An alteration which changes only a singe digit in the date and which cleans up the rest of the coin. The host coin image is still visible through these alterations since die rotation cannot be matched exactly for each coin and variances exist from one coin to another.

He is not manufacturing planchets and creating "currency" or "coins". He is not counterfeiting US coinage but tastefully altering existing US Coinage.

 

So...........if he did not charge so much you'd look at these differently?