Do you want to buy a "coin photo" for 500 bucks?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by unnut, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. unnut

    unnut Member

    So this eBay seller is selling the "coin photo"!!
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1861-Queen-...Pattern-Proof-Two-Annas-Photos-/251982996391?


    He can not be selling the coin, because this is a pretty rare pattern coin, and interesting thing is that the coin is also listed as I write this on ebay. In fact he seems to have picked up his "photos" from this listing itself.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1861-Queen-...983?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b12c51d8f

    He is clearly violating ebay policies. Have reported him, let's see what action is taken by eBay.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Why pay so much money for photos when I can just save the pictures.. ;)
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I notified the owner of the real listing, too, since eBay seems to want the owner of the infringed photos to do the reporting.

    I'm not a collector of non-US material, but man, I can't get this coin out of my head. Wow!
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Looks like the same seller also moved "Two 1oz. Gold 1986 American Eagle Coins - Photos" last week. I'd suspect a hacked account, but it looks like he's continuing to list his usual run of stuff (mostly action figures).

    It's hard for me to see how he could be continuing "business as usual" on those without noticing the high-value fraudulent activity, but I've seen it happen before. I'll withhold judgement as to whether "travisl77" is the perpetrator here, or just the other victim.
     
  6. Pawnmonkey

    Pawnmonkey -----so easy even a monkey can do it-----

    I went ahead and asked if he was selling just the photos. Let's see if I get a reply lol
     
  7. unnut

    unnut Member

    I also notified the owner and also reported the listing, but I guess the owner of real listing needs to report for real impact.
    And yes, this coin is one of a kind, and will probably go for around 6-8 K (or more). I want it so bad, but money is tight at this time for a high value coin like this, else I would have gone for it.
     
  8. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    This is an old trick that was in the news a few years ago. Someone sold an X-Box box for the price of the actual gaming console in a similar manner. They got sued and lost.
     
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  9. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Copyright holder of the images needs to sue the seller.
     
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  10. galapac

    galapac Seeking Knowledge

    He is clearly saying photos so if someone wanted to buy them for that price then what is he doing wrong other than taking someone else's photos?
     
  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The moment he profits from taking someones original photos he becomes liable for a lawsuit.
     
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  12. Pawnmonkey

    Pawnmonkey -----so easy even a monkey can do it-----

    The auction was ended and this was posted:
    "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Listing them in a coin category? "Search and Browse Manipulation".
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Yeah, error in listing. The guy never saw you folks coming. :)
     
  15. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    He is expecting bidiots to come along and not "read" the entire listing. So they click the "Buy It Now" button thinking they just got a great deal.

    The error is that he got caught.
     
  16. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Yes, that IS what he is doing wrong, if selling his own photes, then no problem as long as it is clear he is selling photos.
     
  17. galapac

    galapac Seeking Knowledge

    Boy that could get tricky if you take a photo of a photo to sell...like taking a picture of the Mona Lisa...just unethical all around...
     
  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Not true. There is no market for $500 low-res photos of this coin, or $2200 pairs of photos of AGEs. The only way these sales proceed is by deceiving the buyer.

    Naive buyers will "win" these auctions, pay their money, and receive their photos. They will protest. The seller will claim that the auction clearly described what was for sale. eBay will side with the buyer. It's happened before; it will happen again.

    I don't know whether the seller is behind this, or whether someone hacked his account. I don't know whether the person behind the auction thought (incorrectly) that he could get by with the "it was technically as described" argument, or whether he thought he could get away clean with the money before eBay caught up to him. In either case, he will fail, so it's a self-limiting problem.
     
  19. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Oh no, sorry if that is the way it came off. You cannot sell a photo of a photo. Strict copyright infringement.
     
  20. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Agreed, My post was less than clear to say the least.
     
  21. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    like looking at a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror in a mirror etc.
     
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