Does this toning look real?

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  1. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

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  3. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Suppose it could be natural, but they must have been stored in a very odd environment.

    If it is real, IMO it's still ugly. I wouldn't buy it! Nickels that turn green I call "corroded" or "tarnished," not "toned." Coins have no business being green.
     
  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I personally feel it is totally artificial. If it is real, whatever is on the surface of that coin, most likely should not be there.
     
  5. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    i agree with the others, i dont think green is natural 'toning'... what a way to kill a nice coin.
     
  6. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    It looks like something was painted on.
     
  7. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    AT. That seller is just a scammer. He says it is "Silver". Also, look at the bust's hair, there is some wear...it is ATed to cover up the wear....
     
  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I'm not too sure but nickel is a rather difficult metal to tone unlike silver. Does look suspicious.
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    The color yellow is not unusual for buffalos. That said, my sense is the color is natural, and the photo has been enhanced. Regardless, the coin is not that remarkable or unusual enough to warrant serious consideration...Mike
     
  10. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    His reply when asked about nickel and other coins he sells

    When I asked him about the toning he sent me this reply, no kiddiing I cut and pated this also edited:

    ILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU JEALOUS LOSER I GET WHAT YOUR SAYING!!! YOU SOUND LIKE YOUR THE ONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO TONE COINS!! IM RICH INCASE YOU HAVENT NOTICED AND I SELL ALOT OF TONED COINS!! F*CK OFF JEALOUS LOSER !!!!!!!!STICK TO BUYING YOUR CHEAP COINS!!!!!!!!!

    So, I think it struck a nerve and think you guys are right and it is AT
     
  11. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    It might be natural, but just cause it's natural doesn't mean it looks nice or should be there.
     
  12. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    I would like to bid on his items and never pay just to tick that guy off after that massage.

    Muhahahhaha!

    (Speaking of ebay, I sold a coin, clearly descibed that it had spots on it, and would you believe it I just got I email complaining about the spots!)
     
  13. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Some people are just morons...forward the message to ebay's trust and safety department, here...http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_...bject]&tier1=result_6_3_4&continue=Continue+>
     
  14. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    If you take a look at all of the coins he is selling, half or so all to appear yellow or green. I did not see many rainbow type toning on any. That was what bothered me and when I asked him about that, he exploded in rage.

    His negs all sounded like the blast he gave me for asking a question abou his product.Insults and rude.
     
  15. Slu

    Slu Senior Member

    I say everyone who has an eBay account message him about it, and copy all the hilarious responces here.
     
  16. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I sent him a message...let's see what he says back to me.
     
  17. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    Like this?

    Comment From Date / Time Item #
    coin purchased was not properly graded,overcharged for coin worth,rude responses
    Buyer shaftt1968( 2 ) Mar-27-07 19:18 120084967980
    Reply by michaelt6290: NEWBIE WEIRDO IS A LIAR! WANTED $ BACK BEFORE I EVEN SENT COIN! I LOST$ ON THIS! Mar-27-07 21:22

    sent bent coin, no return policy,wonder why??BU means bent unit,watch out!!!!!!!
    Buyer viperbob2( 229) Mar-10-07 17:31 120090305958
    Follow-up by viperbob2: looser gives retal feedback after sending bent coin and won't refund, looser!!!! Mar-10-07 17:47
    Reply by michaelt6290: I GAVE THAT WEASEL A NEG BECAUSE HE DESERVED IT!IM A GOOD EBAY SELLER!SEE FEEDB Mar-10-07 18:08


    This guy is a scam artist posing as a legitimate ebay seller. Watch Out!
    Buyer olfletch( 398) Mar-01-07 08:34 120084986506
    Reply by michaelt6290: IM A SCAM ARTIST BECAUSE I DONT GIVE REFUNDS?? EBAYERS JUST CHECK MY FEEDBACKS!! Mar-01-07 12:12
    Rating Mutually Withdrawn: Buyer and seller mutually agreed to withdraw feedback for this item. Learn more. Mar-01-07 14:20
    Beware! No Return Policy! Poor Comminication. Threatens Lawsuits. Why Bother?
    Buyer iucoinsr4me( 55) Jan-28-07 11:44 120071789898
    Reply by michaelt6290: THIS NEWBIE TRIED TO EXTORT ME & NOW IS TRYING TO HURT MY BIZ! NO PAY JUST NEG!! Jan-28-07 12:27

    Coin does not display toning at all like enhanced photo colors, no returns
    Buyer mollsantiques( 73) Aug-18-06 17:11 120013763261

    misrepersented coin dishonest dealings tried to resolve BEWARE ask many ?
    Buyer midovan56( 130) Jun-28-06 03:03 8435126867
    Reply by michaelt6290: NEG FOR A SCRATCH NOT MENTIONED IN DESCRIPTION?LOOK AT THE PHOTO NEWBIE! PETTY! Jun-28-06 04:04
    Follow-up by midovan56: scratch actually is gouges that do not show up ask many questions be4 buying Jun-28-06 07:33

    didnt get item and left me a neg after trying to recover funds real jerk here
    Buyer iloverarecoins1969( 60)
    no longer a registered user Mar-17-06 12:04 8385524653
    Reply by michaelt6290: THIS NEWBIE BUYER RIPPED ME OFF AND THEN WENT PRIVATE TO HIDE!BLOCK THIEF NOW!!! Mar-17-06 13:02

    Overgrades his coins and has no return policy. But I do. He is fast to ship.
    Buyer salney( 361) Mar-06-06 12:34 8381549179
    Follow-up by salney: DISHONEST USES FOUL LANGUAGE,WILL INSULT YOU. CHECK FEEDBACK LEFT ME U WILL SEE Mar-08-06 15:07
    Reply by michaelt6290: DISHONEST?? SALNEY YOU ARE WORSE THAN THE PLAGUE& SUCK!THATS HONEST! PQ COINS!! Mar-08-06 21:38

    PROVIDED A FULL REFUND AND STILL FIGHTING ME. TRY NOT TO SELL TO THIS GUY.
    Seller buybest13( 852) Oct-31-05 04:42 5237067672
    Reply by michaelt6290: LOOK AT HIS RECENT12 NEGS!EBAY WILL REMOVE HIM AGAIN!PAYPAL DONT TRUST HIM.SCAM Oct-31-05 08:26
    Follow-up by buybest13: Ungreatful, I do what it takes to make customers happy. 531 Positives and going Nov-01-05 09:57

    Terrible buyer- Gave him a full refund and he's still complaining. Kept PC also.
    Seller buybest13( 852) Oct-12-05 05:55 5240916352
    Reply by michaelt6290: LIAR + CONMAN!DONT TRUST! LIED TO GET EVEN!CHECK OUT HIS NEGS ALL TRUE!SUING HIM Oct-12-05 13:52
    Follow-up by buybest13: Again, Provided a refund in full before he decided to leave me neg. Get a life.. Nov-01-05 10:03
     
  18. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    Uh oh. I think he is really mad, he just sent me this rant:

    WHAT A IDIOT!! IF YOU THINK I WOULD PUT JUICE ON A 1917 UNCIRCULATED COIN THAT REALLY SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU KNOW. I AM GONNA TELL YOU AGAIN I DONT TONE COINS AND I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. I HAVE BOTH AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT ALL THE TONED COINS I HAVE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW ARE ORIGINAL.YOURS DONT LOOK LIKE MINE BECAUSE I HAVE HIGH DOLLAR COINS. YOU BUY JEFFERSON NICKELS!!! THE REASON WHY I LOST IT IS BECAUSE I KNOW YOUR JUST JEALOUS LIKE MANY OTHER EBAYERS. JEALOUS PEOPLE SEND MESSAGES LIKE THAT!!LOOK THROUGH MY FEEDBACK AND SEE WHAT I SELL!! BIG $$$$$$$. IF YOU WANT TO SEE A TRUE SCAMMER LOOK UP JUSTCENTS HE CLEANS AND TONES ALOT OF INDIANS EVERY WEEK!! HE NEEDS THE MESSAGE! IM NOT ONE OF THE WANNA BE SELLERS!! JUST TO PROVE IT TO YOU IM GONNA SEND YOU A FEW PICS LATER OF THE BEST TONED & THE MOST EXPENSIVE COINS YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!! EVER!! ONE MORE THING YOUR NOT FUNNY AT ALL!! THIS IS JUST FOR YOU!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Is there a Doctor in the house?
     
  19. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

  20. Lemmyk

    Lemmyk Senior Member

    That was actually my first and only words back to him from his first rant....no kidding.

    I like his deflection move of going after another dealer too.
     
  21. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I think it should be pointed out that the coin is not uncirculated. If you look toward the rear of the Buffalo on the reverse, there is some flatness....it definitely looks like an AU piece to me.

    That said, I think the coin is AT, and was done this way to attempt to hide the luster breaks that would indicated wear. Therefore the coin could be passed off as a "beautifully toned uncirculated piece."

    Looks like a scam artist in my opinion.
     
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