Washington silver set

I'm about to start putting together a set of silver Washington quarters, all dates and mint marks. All will be ms65+. I want the set to be the same TPG and same generation. Any input on what slab would show/look the best? I was thinking this but not sure...

 

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I'll definitely be "buying the coin not the slab". But would like the set to look uniform in the holders

 

I get that - OCD tendencies seem to run in this hobby I like NGC edge view holders better myself, you're just going to have to figure out which one you like best. Visit a shop or show and check out the different ones maybe.

 

I love silver WQs, but your minimum grade is too high at MS65+ simply because the 1932-D is going to swamp the value of the set. Only two of these have been graded MS65+ and the last sold for $41k at auction and there are only two MS66 pieces and the last sold for $143k at auction. You would have to stay at MS65 or lower for the minimum unless your funds, and patience, are near limitless.

I also agree with PCGS for the series since they generally have much more market liquidity and PCGS, in my opinion, grades this series more consistently (on average) and perhaps a half-point tighter in the MS grades than NGC. However, keeping them all in one generation slab would be problematic, at best, and foolish, at worst. It would be foolish to pass a spectacular coin at a fair price simply because the generation holder did not meet what you chose. Of course, you might always reholder or regrade your coins once you acquire them and this will assure you of having them all in the same holder. Instead of requiring the same holder, have you thought of having your coins imaged and then placing them in a virtual album or virtual holder so that they all have a consistent presentation?

I love this series and you will need dedication, deep pockets, discipline and lots of luck to complete a fabulous set. I have been heavily into WQs (the only modern series I am intimately familiar with) since the early-to-mid-1990s and have watched as it morphed from the outer most boondocks to the hottest commodity and back to somewhere in between with a devoted and deep following.

 

Aside from the prices, PCGS would probably match the best.

 

Sorry I should have specified. I'm in no position to get anywhere near 65 on the key dates. I'll get what I can afford and trade up as I am able.

If I were to find a great piece at a fair price I would certainly grab it but probably wouldn't reslab. I have no problem owning duplicates. It just wouldn't be a part of the set.

A virtual album is also a great idea. That will probably be my backup plan if I have trouble getting all the same slabs

 

Unless you are specifically collecting a certain type of slab (such as a rattler, doily, black, etc), I highly recommend you look at all generations and all companies. Buy the coin - the holder is just plastic to protect it. You don't sound like you are collecting holders - so by only focusing on one generation of one TPG, you will immediately pass up a large number of excellent coins.

 

I have thought about that and it's an excellent point. My thoughts were that there are so many of these coins that I should be able to find some really nice examples. I guess if I can't pass up the ones I find in other slabs I'll just scrap that idea

 

Are you going to collect the major varieties too, such as the type B from 56 to 64 and the very interesting 64-d type C? The last would be a very difficult coin in ms-65, but very interesting addition to your set. I would also add the rare and hard to find clad type B Denver coins from 69-72, even though the silver issues are your main target. Only Anacs slabs the Clad type B's though. Not many seem to know about the clad type B coins, and only a few dies were used, so finding them in 60 to 65 may take a long time, but would be worth the effort.

 

I don't know about the 69-72 type B. Where can I read more about that?

 

In my opinion, there is frustratingly little information written about these later date dies and even fewer quality images available. This may have changed for the better recently, but in the not-doo-distant past it was near impossible to find good information on these coins and that has led to less interest, in my opinion, than perhaps there might have been.

 

I'll keep looking and I'll post anything I find.

 

These aren't really Type B's (RDV-002) as they are Type H (RDV-008). Type H is similar to the Type B. But not the same.

Type B (RDV-002)


Type H (RDV-008)


Hand out from James Wiles is attached.

And no, I would not consider the Type H CnClad quarters for an "All Silver" Washington Set.

The Type H reverse was used on the CnClad Proof Washington during 1968 - 1972 where a few of the dies made their way to the Denver Facility and were used in the Production presses.

No 1968-D Type H reverses are known to exist but the Type H Reverse can be found on 1969-D through 1972-D with the latter years, 71 and 72 being very rare.

The coins with the Type H reverse that are found are usually well circulated since this reverse type did NOT show up in US Mint Uncirculated coins sets and quite frankly, circulated Washingtons from those years are always very well circulated.









PCGS dos NOT attribute the Type H Reverse but NACS will. The above two coins were purchased and they were NOT cheap.

 

Thank you for the info. I probably won't go for the varieties. But when the set is done I'll probably go for the doubles dies.

 

I have a lot of Washington quarters that are mostly BU and most are BU. No 1932 D & S and also 1934 & 5 D & S in BU. But I do have a bunch of them. But not working a set either just Love coin collecting.

By the way can anyone explain what you mean by TPG mean. I am kinda dumb at this and I seen it a lot from other msg.

 

TPG=Third Party Grader

Essentially, PCGS, NGC, ANACS, etc...

 

Thank you

 

Good info on the type b and h. I've only got one, which is a 1969-d, going to try to get all four. The 69-d was picked out of circulation, and is getting graded now, expecting vf-20.

 

I'd like to add a +1 to everything @Tom B said. If you want to have all uniform holders, probably your only way to do it is going to be to collect them in whatever plastic they come in, then cross over/reholder all the coins that aren't in the latest generation holder when you finish. If you want the coins to all look substantially the same, you're probably going to have to stay away from toners (as no two look alike). Also, I would recommend a certified coin album made by Eagle, Lighthouse, or some other manufacturer as a presentation aid.

Oh, and have fun learning to grade these guys. I find Washington quarters deceptively hard to grade... perhaps the hardest post-1933 series.

 

Have FUN, it's a GREAT series to collect!!!

I "solved" the price problem by collecting the coins in plastic only from 1940 - 1964. Most of the price of the series is in the 1932 - 1939 stretch. Also, if you are into varieties that can get pricey too. By keeping my slabbed purchases to the 1940 - 1964 stretch I was able to increase the average grade I was able to collect, to predominantly MS66.

Over time you'll be able to figure out what you like best... white coins, toners or some sort of a mix. Personally I would not worry so much about the grade, but about the look of the coins. Given how some date/mm are relatively expensive and some are relatively inexpensive, as long as the coin looks good to you, and is within your financial range, I'd go for that look. For example, the "core" grade of my set was MS66. While there are 64 date/mm slots in the 1940 - 1964 range (not including varieties) I ended up with 8 MS65's and 18 MS66+/MS67 coins, because they had the look (toners) I was looking for.

After collecting slabbed Washies for several years, I started a raw toner Dansco, in predominantly MS63 - MS65. In the raw Dansco, I have decided to include 1932 - 1939 and 1965 - 1985. The latter grouping are quite inexpensive. The former group I've decided to include XF/AU coins for the tougher (read, more expensive) date/mm. It's a fun process, and you can get the raw tough date/mm for less than a slabbed one, but you've got to watch out for cleaning etc. on them.

Here's a link to my Registry set. All the coins have images. Just click on the Gallery or Slideshow tabs (or the camera icon).

http://coins.www.collectors-society...etListing.aspx?PeopleSetID=112811&Ranking=all

Have FUN!!!