Ancient => 1-2-3-Fourrée!!

He doesn't even hear the crunch of our bones underfoot ...

 

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I reckon we can't win either way. Even if we score a lot, we'll be wondering... uh, now wait a minute, why didn't Clio bid on it? What's wrong with my coin? Does it suck?? Aaarrrghh!!

 

Definitely both.

Nah, I don't view it that way. He buys plenty of coins that, at a glance, appear to suck. I've certainly bought plenty of coins that others would shake their head at. Maybe he just wants one of everything. At the moment he seems to be vacuuming up interesting and rare provincials, regardless of condition.

As long as he really loves the coins I can't really hold anything against him. If I had the means I'd be Hoovering too.

 

Great coins all: Did is mine only fourree

 

M. VOLTEIUS M.F. ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS VOLTEIA
AR Fouree Denarius
OBVERSE: Laureate & helmeted bust of Attis right; shield behind
REVERSE: Cybele seated right in chariot drawn by two lions; OQ above
Rome 78BC
2.9g, 18mm
Cr385/4; Syd 777, Volteia 4


TITUS
Fouree Denarius
OBVERSE: CAES VESPAS AVG TR P COS III, Laureate head right
REVERSE: Foreparts of two capricorns springing in opposing directions, supporting round shield inscribed S C; globe below
Struck at Rome, 80/1AD
3.06g, 18mm
RIC II 357 (Titus); RSC 497


P. SATRIENUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS SATRIENA
Fouree Denarius
OBVERSE: Denarius. Helmeted head of Mars right, numeral behind
REVERSE: ROMA above, she-wolf walking left; P SATRIE/ NVS in two lines in exergue
Rome 77 BC
3.3g, 18.5mm
Cr 388/1b; Syd 781a

 

Yeah. Completely kidding. On the other hand, if I did win a coin against Clio, I'd know I probably overpaid .

 

I'm surprised I haven't run across the infamous 'Clio' yet---or perhaps I simply haven't noticed.....but I suppose it's inevitable.

I love these posts, the fouree(ii) are varied and interesting-----makes me reconsider getting another example or two.

Bing, How is it your Titus fouree appears so 'golden' as a denarius??? I have trouble photographing silvery items and they turn out a bit too 'white', but never golden??

 

It's the lighting. But I need to re-shoot this image as well as the other 650 or so. Daunting!

 

I have a few fourees in my collection but I am baffled by their pricing and value. Is there some rule of thumb to determine what their pricing should be compared to the original and authorized version of a coin? Say 50% of the value?

 

Well, I take back my 'coloring' statement---I just ended up with a 'golden' denarius as well.....Yeah, I still have problems with lighting---and many other things LOL

That number of coins to re-photograph is DAUNTING ---Luckily(?), I have less than a third of that all told...

 

That makes two of us kevin, as I probably over-paid for the one I bought and posted---although I like it quite a bit.

 

Welcome to the Zombie ancient coin club Steve, super fourree to start with.
Here's a couple of mine.

Octavian



Vespasian



I think this may have been a Gold over bronze??

 

Really COOL coins Eng!!!

Possibly gold over bronze---that's intriguing. I wonder how 'common' that may have been???

Doug----Where are you???

 

Nice => I've always been a bit of a lurker where these fourree thingies are concerned, but there sure have been some interesting examples posted in this thread (wow Eng, a couple of very sweet examples directly above!!)

Hey, thanks for your coinpliments, gang ... and thanks for posting your interesting examples (man, sometimes we're so cool, eh?)

 

Yeah, we're the cool kids in a class full of nerds.
Me and Steve.

 

Whoa, I love your Star Trek uniform!!

 

You're both soooo cool, for sure

Q

 

It is impossible to tell from a photo whether a plated coin is toned or poorly photographed. Many silver coins tone a bit yellowish but there were always people who added gold wash to try to cheat people.

Value of fourrees TO ME is never over about 1/4 the equivalent solid coin but they are rarely really equivalent since most are peeling and ugly. IMHO most today are selling far higher than appropriate. I have a lot of fourrees but buy very few anymore. When I got mine, dealers were a little ashamed to sell them and most collectors would have nothing to do with them at any price. Fourree or not, there is a current interest (fad?) in unofficial coins. I suspect this will pass in time and we will go on to something else. My favorite coins page shows seven of the hundred being fourree. Of these, I have trouble picking a #1 but The most recent is my gold over silver Byzantine which is a strong contender even though it only made the page as a backup to the one over copper:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/f98.html

However the one that made the list mostly for being fourree is the Hadrian brockage which is also my best example of a fourrees made with eutectic solder added between the silver foil and the core which probably is something only those who have read the Campbell book will appreciate. I think it is my favorite fourree.

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/f54.html

 

Well, the CNG estimate on my grungy OP-coin was $75 ...

=> I laid-down the required 60% initial entrance fee = $45 ... and I guess nobody else saw the coin's inner beauty, so I took the poor orphan home to Manitoba (it's a feel good story for all of the lil' zombie freaks in the world, ya know?)