Genuine large cent?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kirkuleez, May 5, 2015.

  1. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Seems easy to me, but my favorite dealer (who's seen it in hand) said "clear modern copy". I don't expect him to know every die marriage, but this seems pretty well known. I attribute as a common clearly cleaned in the past N-4, but what say you? (It's not clipped, just my bad editing) image.jpg
     
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Is there, by any chance, a die crack on the reverse joining the letter A and T in STATES?
     
  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I don't see a die break Paul, but it may just be an earlier die state? I can read the diagnostics, but I've missed the overall before.
     
  5. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Anybody have any thoughts?
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I don't know. Something has red flags flashing in the back of my head, but it does perfectly match N-4 from what I can see.
     
  7. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Do you see the vertical gouge in Ms. Liberty's cheek? That is a characteristic of the very well made Bay Area counterfeits. However, I believe the gouge is a little off of where is should be for these counterfeits. Also, the large cents that were produced were typically of 1853, though other dates are known, too. Is there any doubling at all on the bottom of the date? The impaired surfaces in combination with the cheek problem were likely what made the dealer comment on the likelihood of it being fake.

    By the way, a gorgeous Bay Area counterfeit is the only coin I have ever been fooled on, as far as I know, and I purchased one raw in around 1997.
     
  8. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Thanks for the input. I don't know if this makes it easier to see, but here are my bad iPhone pics. image.jpg image.jpg
     
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