Eddie there are 3 different varieties listed In the cpg for 1890. 1 a triple die obv.2 misplaced date a 1 in the neck,3 misplaced date in the denticals . Now that said it don't mean that there's not more. A on your second image bottom photo there's something in the denticals . Look in the 3 denticals that fall between the 90. the #3 variety described above is a mpd with the 0 in the denticals , from your image I can't see enough to make a call. But I will say that on your coin it is in the same location as pictured in the cpg.
I'll look at it when I get a chance, thanks, that's interesting. The different date placements aren't in and of themselves considered varieties, then. I'm assuming, their being so obvious, the "experts" are well-aware of them, by now.
Eddie I like to see a full shot of both coins. The reasons is the pointed bust and rounded . I see one is rounded and the other pointed. The point to rounded point of Bust occurred during the 1860 time period . Some 30 year before 1890.I just noticed from your images that the top image has a rounded point as the lower is pointed.
Well considering the recently discovered 1919 Mercury DDO anything is possible . Just shy of 100 years old by 4 years,what makes you believe that the "experts" are aware?
Let me see what I can do with these in terms of providing more images. Those are old pictures. Actually I just assumed the experts would know of these placements, but you're right (...so there's hope, lol).
You know Eddie the word "expert" is so over rated , case in point... expert snake handlers do get bit! Expert skydivers occasionally their chutes don't open, expert lawyers loose cases ,and sometimes their clients get put to death. Like I said over rated or just an illusion . But what ever you don't tell this to the experts. As it messes up their balance , and that would make them wrong!
OK, I got something. I don't have a camera available. I looked at mine real closely, however, then went to Heritage, then made this side-by-side comparison of the two date placements, off these much better photographs. As I'm trying to illustrate, now, the best I can, there's a difference, here are the two I'm showing, however, in much better condition. These are different date placements, and they're both MS grades. The fact they don't get any recognition, I think, is somewhat puzzling.
Well you could ask Snow , I like to know about the pointed bust as apposed the blunt. As the Images you posted looks to be two different types.
I forgot you asked it. I'll try and get a shot of it, Paddy, when I can get it over to the scanner. I think it's pointed, however, just a little corrupted on that end to see it, clearly. It's certainly not as rounded as the 1864 No-L, it's sharper than that.
I'm pretty sure the even into the late 1960's (?) they were hand punching the date into the die, so dates could be all over the place. I don't think that attribute (different placement of the date) actually constitutes a variety in and of itself. The nines tho on your coins look significantly different. And the neck of the busts are different too.
Eddie you could research the 9's both are similar but one is closed and flat ,the other nearly closed with a ball tail. Check number styles as well as pointed,rounded bust. Just like a crime scene you run with the clues left at the crime scene . Then piece the puzzle together. The ones are slightly different also compare the ones base or foot.
