1943 1C

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  1. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Give me your personal grade. Then, find the clash. Then, tell me what that metal is on the T in CENT, which presents like a chip, but why would that deep area in the die chip? Then you can go, lol. Thanks. :)

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't see a clash.

    Die breaks can occur anywhere there happens to be a weakness in the substrate.

    I'm not familiar with grading Lincoln cents. Those little buggers give me headaches.

    Chris
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    MS -64 clash is behind Lincoln neck, not a chip a drip from being re coating of zinc.
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Drip? But this error repeats. It's even found on copper cents, although it varies in size and shape. I'll see if I can dig one of the copper ones up.

    On the clash, that's not the one I'm seeing. My pictures are terrible, but you can make it out. In fact, it's found on quite a few of these 1943s.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Are you talking on his jacket?
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    No. It's a clash. It can't show there.
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That could be a 67 IF it has the luster, but I cannot tell from your pictures.
    Don't see the clash
    Zinc
    In stead of a chip, how about a plating bubble?
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    A clash can show anywhere on a coin
     
  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's right up there in that grade, Rusty. The pictures are just bad, that's why Paddy isn't seeing it. They're not showing much beyond just the very clean fields, really.

    I guess I have to tell you guys where this clash is, as these pictures are kind of marginal, if not, crude. Look along the neck, just under the chin, going straight down to the tie. That's a clash of the leg of the N in CENT. It's not common, but I've see it a lot. I may have a picture of a 1943 I lifted from Heritage in my files showing it, I'll see, as I do want you to see it.
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I don't know, Paddy. At any rate, those shallow areas don't take them very well.
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Eddie do you have a cpg? Have a look at a 1870 shield nickel with an IHC in the shield .
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    But that's in the flat areas of the shield, right, between the columns? I could see clashing showing there.

    Let me see if I can round up those pictures I'm owing you guys. After dinner. Tonight is pizza and beer night. :)
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Here's a closeup of the clash on another coin. Sorry about these bad pictures, they really don't show it that well.

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  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Have another beer Eddie they get better looking with each gulp. LOL I see the clash and also see something behind his neck.
     
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  16. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    I doubt it's a 67, unless it was graded as that by a tpg. They don't give higher than a 66 often with the steelies, from what I remember. As for the clash, I thought it was above the date because something's going on in the field there as far as I can tell
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    There are far and away more 67 steelies than any other year of wheats. For instance, there are 3,700+ MS67 for 1943-S (PCGS + NGC). That is the "rarest" of the steeies. And, FWIW, there are as many MS68 steelies as there are 68's for all the rest of the wheats combined.
     
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  18. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    Sheesh, I didn't know that. Those 67 and 68's are quite expensive in comparison right? I remember one time I was searching and only found one 68 for sale on ebay (can't remember if it was for one mint mark or all). Anecdotal evidence I guess
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    68's go for a pretty penny (pun intended). 67's aren't too bad. About $65 - $100 for NGC and about $80 - $150 for PCGS.
     
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  20. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    63/64, lacking luster and the fields don't look near clean enough for higher.
     
  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    What do you think of the cleanliness of these fields?

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