Vicious Little Achaemenid King

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by zumbly, Apr 27, 2015.

  1. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Do you have a link to this website?

    Here are a few of my Persians.
    KneelingKing.jpg PERSIA, Achaemenid Empire. temp. Darios I to Xerxes I. Circa 505-480 BC. AR Sixth Siglos (7mm, 0.84 g).

    1:4 siglos.jpg
    PERSIA. Achaemenid Empire. Time of Artaxerxes I to Xerxes II (Circa 455-420 BC). 1/4 Siglos. 8mm 1.32g.

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    Artaxerxes II - Darius III, c. 375 - 340 B.C., Silver siglos, Carradice Type IV (late) C, 46 ff.; BMC Arabia 172 ff.; SNG Kayhan 1031; SGCV II 4683; Rosen 674; Klein 763; Carradice Price p. 77 and pl. 20, 387 ff.

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    ACHAEMENID PERSIAN EMPIRE. Time of Darius I - Xerxes II Circa 485-420 B.C.E. AV daric. 16mm, 8.36g
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow Nemo => you have fantastic coin-skills!! (gorgeous, congrats on those babies!!)
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Those are all nice Nemo.
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nemo, I only have a hardcopy version he updated to include mine and other recent coins. I will ask him at our next club meeting if we can put his research online. I will let everyone know if we do.
     
  6. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the kind comments. Medoraman, that would be great if it works out, thanks again.
     
  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Achaemenid Kings of Persia
    Time of Darios I to Xerxes I c. 485-450 BC. Time of the War with Greece
    AR Silver Siglos 17 mm x 5.51g
    Sardes Mint
    Persian Hero King in Kneeling -running stance right, holding spear and bow
    Reverse: Incuse punch, bankers mark.
    Ref: Carradice Type IIIa (pl. xi, 14); Carradice, " Two Achaemenid Hoards", in NumChron 1998, 136-7.
    20130629_Siglos485BC_opt.jpg
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    cool banker's mark, Noob
     
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  9. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Thanks steve! You know how I love them countermarks!
     
  10. Napata

    Napata Active Member


    Hi,

    do you think this siglos Carradice Type I also bear the inverted die?
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    Moreover, do you know how to get your friend's book about Carradice Type I sigloi on CGN?
     
  11. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Darn.. if only I have an Achaemenid to share too.. but all the sigloi here are amazing...
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I could try to pull out his book tonight and see which reverse die this one is. Maybe someday Bill will publish this article, but right now he is simply updating with any examples he finds. Its his pet project. Btw, its Bill Daehn, the author who has written the definitive book on numismatic references that you can buy at CNG.
     
  13. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread and shared your knowledge. I purchased this coin over a decade ago to complement my Greek fractional collection, but knew next to nothing about it. Now I do:happy:

    [oops! experimenting with new photo software, and I am having trouble making this smaller...it's a tiny coin...my apologies!]

    SG3426 obv.jpeg SG3426 rev.jpeg
    Lydia, under Persian rule
    Issued by Darius I, 510-486 BC
    Type 2 AR 1/6 siglos, .8gm - 7 mm
    Obv: The Great King kneeling right; shooting bow
    Rx: Incuse punch
     
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  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    It is interesting that counterfeiters began working not long after the invention of coinage. Here is an ancient fake of the siglos type:

    01135.jpg 01135edge.jpg

    You can see the copper under the silver plating, especially on the image of the edge. (See the recent fourree thread:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/mu...us-fourée-denarius.270214/page-2#post-2265385 )

    Give people something new and they will soon figure out how to do something criminal with it (witness the internet).
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    WOW, that is a new one to me. That is a rapid counterfeiting scheme so soon after the first issuance of coinage! Buy some copper, wash it with silver, BOOM 10x value! Thanks Valentinian!
     
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