Spanish silver dollar (1739) from reign of Philip V

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  1. King_George_Va

    King_George_Va Active Member

    I found in my collection a Spanish silver dollar -1739 , from reign of Philip V. I suspect it to be a counterfeit. However, I took it to my LCD and he tested it for silver and it passed.
    There is a discrepancy on what it weighs. One LCD said my coin weighs .8022 ounces.
    The other LCD said it weight .7 ounces.

    Also, I can't find a definitive weight that it should weigh
    Also, one LCD said he did not like the grey color of my coin.
    The embedded picture is a real coin.
    My coin is in the attachment and has a orangish circle around if.

    Thanks!

    Can/would the board enlighten me?


    VTRAQVE VNUM M[EXICANUS] 1739 ("Both (are) one, Mexico [City Mint], 1739")
    Displays two hemispheres of a world map, crowned between the Pillars of Hercules adorned with the PLVS VLTR[A] motto.

    Obverse
    IARUM] REX ("Philip V, by the Grace of God, King of the Spains and the Indies")
    Displays the arms of Castile and León with Granada in base and an inescutcheon of Anjou.
    [​IMG]
     

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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Sorry, the color, as well as the strike looks very suspect.

    I don't do these types of coins but I am pretty sure it is a reproduction.
     
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  4. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    It's a modern coin.

    I have many pillar 8 reales from Mexico, but none photographed yet.

    For comparison here's an example from Potosi, Bolivia, 1770, acquired from Rick Ponterio back in the early 1980s.

    Potosi, 8 reales, Charles III, 1770 JR.
    KM 50
    27.3 grams


    D-Camera Potosi 8 reales, Charles III, 1770 JR,  AU KM50 27.3g   2-23-21.jpg

    There are some minor stylistic differences between the pillars of Mexico and other mints, but the basic design remained the same from 1732 to 1772, when the portrait coinage was in place at all colonial mints.
     
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  5. Marsden

    Marsden Well-Known Member

    And the condition.
    Beautiful coin though.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I could be wrong, but I'm not sure it's genuine.
     
  7. King_George_Va

    King_George_Va Active Member

    Thank you all for your replies.
    Since it tested positive for silver via the the rub test, any guess on how much silver is it it
     
  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Can you turn the top picture. Sideway coins make no sense. Upside down too
     
  9. moneditis

    moneditis Reales de a 8

    Fake. No doubt
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

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  11. King_George_Va

    King_George_Va Active Member

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