eBay removes my replica coin

Put it in the NOVELTY coin Category...Do NOT say a counterfeit, but, make sure to include THIS IS PLATED WITH A NON-MINT LAYER OF GOLD in listing, and, show closeup of that on coin.....you CAN list as "wrong Metal" in title and description, which, technically, it IS, and, not draw their robo-interest on key words, like, "Fake" "Forgery" "Contemporary Counterfeit"....if this makes you nervous, you CAN list on eBayCANADA, as they allow contemporary counterfeit listings, or, eBayUK.

 

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NO, just no. If this is not listed as FAKE, COPY, etc clearly listed in the title and listing, it should be removed.

 

We should not be trying to come up with ideas as to how to unload a fake coin. If you try to fool ebay's system, you are also trying to fool customers.

 

You said it all

 

Ugh. There's so much wrong with this post.

Listing it as "wrong metal" is not correct, because it's on the correct metal, just not gold. It's not a "contemporary counterfeit," because it's not a counterfeit at all, and definitely not contemporary with the authentic coin. And, trying to skirt eBay's rules is a bit of a fool's errand. You can make a little money, but at what cost? If I noticed auctions written the way you suggest in a seller's history, I'd avoid that seller like the plague. And, eBay might stick you with an infraction, too.

That said, this is not a counterfeit coin. It is a replica and complies with the Hobby Protection Act. If eBay had a category for replicas, required a prominent photo of the COPY stamp, and didn't show these in searches for coins unless you checked a box or something, I'd be totally okay with that.

 

What if he put it in a mason jar with a bunch of common junk coins from the 19th century. Place the replica coin where it is partially hidden, and seal the jar with wax. Take photos of jar at weird angles to make it harder to view properly. Then place the Jar in an old dirty farmhouse, and take some photos. Write an Ebay description stating you found the jar in the old farmhouse. start it at .99 cents and you should be able to get it sold.

Oh, i forgot. Mention in the description that you dont have time to look at the coins and you rather just sell the whole jar unsearched.

 

Oh, come on. Nobody would ever fall for that...

 

Wow, what an idea. At least I know who I am NOT going to buy any coins from.

 

ouch.

 

Lol, I guess they have not seen the examples of what you described. Pretty sure bkozak33 was not serious

 

I see no problem with trying to make a profit, but trying to sell a $3-5 coin for $240 is just wrong. You're not trying to make a profit, you're trying to cheat someone that doesn't have the correct knowledge. I've got fake gold coins - a Stella, a $20 California, a Quarter Eagle, a Half Eagle, an Eagle and a Double Eagle and I don't think I paid $25 for all of them. Ebay taking down your auction will make it easier to live with your conscience.

 

I once got into a big scuffle with a local car dealer who had mailed out fliers to get customers into the showroom. Each flier had a number which, when matched to a list of numbers at the dealership, would qualify the holder to a prize, one of which was "Five Gold Coins". As luck (?) would have it, my number qualified for the "Five Gold Coins" prize. What they handed me was five Sacagawea Dollars. I pointed out that they weren't "Gold" and that I wanted what they advertized. They claimed that the "Gold" referred to the color of the coins. I refused to accept them and reported the whole thing to the PA Attorney General. And heard nothing more.

 

Go to eBay and do a search for replica coins you will get a total of 1,034 auctions and buy it now at the time of this post. eBay does not police their auctions, why should they, it would be a huge loss of revenue.

 

But yet fantasy over struck coins can be sold with impunity? Who drafted that ridiculous policy?

 

What's wrong with fantasy coins? I mean as long as we're not talking about the whole issue of misleading wording to make people think it's solid precious metal. If it's not a replica of an existing coin, how would allowing their sale be harmful when their material composition is presented honestly?

Or are you talking about like... modern fantasy countermarks on genuine coins (like the ones on MT thalers)? If it's the latter then I most certainly agree.

 

Not I, but I fail to follow your logic.

 

And just what coin (i.e. legal coin) is a 1964 peace dollar a replica of? A 1910-D Indian cent? A 1933 Washington quarter?

 

I would contend that in the case of the 64 peace, since they were in fact struck at one point and intended to be legal tender that makes modern production of them to be a that of replication. Fantasy implies an original piece, whereas what is done with the making of a 64 piece is to replicate a ditched project.

Regardless of the end result, that of discontinuation and demonetization (loss of legal tender status), the design is that of a coin originally produced with the intent to circulate.

 

Doug does a good job of outlining my position, except I would take it further and opine that the pieces are unauthorized coins bearing the resemblance of U.S. Coin designs and legends in violation of the counterfeiting statutes I n Title 18, namely 18 USC 485 and 487. Put another way, in my opinion the pieces are worse than replicas.

Are the Chinese counterfeits like the "1798-CC" Trade Dollars and other non-existent dates acceptable merely because the date is odd? And the 1964-D Peace Dollar looks like a genuine example, which was actually struck. PCGS has offered $10,000 to view an authentic piece yet these supposedly don't exist like 1933 Double Eagles were supposedly all melted.

The others cited bear the resemblance to genuine U.S. Coinage. The fantasy over strike process destroys the original design pretty much entirely and stamps new devices and dates. Are these legitimate? If the Chinese starting striking Trade Dollars on contemporaneous Morgan Dollar planchets, would those be okay? What about the 1964 Franklin fantasy piece over struck over a 1964 Kennedy?