Is this an error? $2 1/2 Indian

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jwitten, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    At first glance I thought these marks were scratches, but after closer inspection they appear to be under the incuse design, and not on/above it. Could it be a planchet flaw? Any ideas?

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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    If I'm seeing what I think I'm seeing (what looks like gouges going all the way through "OF" in "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," I'd say yeah. But, I wouldn't have noticed it had you not prompted me to look. I'd say get an in-hand opinion to confirm.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Interesting. Maybe a Lamination Defect before strike.
     
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  5. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I would be interested in getting this one graded just to see what they say. I don't know if the other mark right above the shoulder is the same, or a scratch that would get a details grade. It might grade decent if they are not scratches.
     
  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    First off, I think it was a planchet defect due to the "scars" not touching the incuse design.

    Secondly, @paddyman98, your avatar is improperly handling that coin. Make it stop.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

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    Is it possible that these are adjustment marks?

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  8. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Unlikely, I'd say. It's a small, 20th century gold coin. All of those factors in combination weigh pretty heavily against it being adjustment marks. Also, they look fairly deep. Striking would have lessened the marks, so they would have had to have been extremely deep in the planchet otherwise. Why file it down so heavily in one small area?
     
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  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Struck on a defective planchet.

    I'm more curious about what's going on at the "E" in "UNITED".
     
  10. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I noticed that, too. Interesting coin, and might be worth sending in just to see what they say.
     
  11. jello

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  12. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Date ?
    I have seen a few with planchet defect .
     
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  13. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Nice one! I'd definitely call it a planchet error, which is more unusual with gold from what I've seen. Don't think it would increase the value much, but certainly makes the piece more interesting!
     

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  14. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    It is a 1926
     
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  15. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Thanks !
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  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Post Strike Damage

    In the Pratt Indians NOTHING can be higher than the field of the coin. Look at the marks below OF A. There are definite ridges on the side toward the eagle that are higher than the field. As what ever it was that caused these marks goes through the lettering you can seewhere it made contact with the upright of the E, the lower right curve of the S the right side of the O and lower upright of the F. There does not appear to be any trace of these marks down in the bottom of the recess on either side of the letters. So it wasn't there pre-Strike. Whatever it was made the marks on the field and the letters which are at just about the same height as the field, and left ridges that are above the height of the field, PSD.
     
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