1864 L Indian Head Cent Die Break and MPD?

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  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Picked this one up yesterday here are a few images. I'm seeing some numbers in the denticles. Plus the die break through the date. Just wanted some feed back from the forum.Thanks 1864 L 1.jpg 1864 L 2.jpg 1864 L 4 Rev..jpg 1864 obv. 3.jpg
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    interesting dirt in the dentils, no MPD that I see

    also, nice die crack
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I feel like I should know what this means.. MPD? But I don't o_O
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Misplaced Date.

    Chris
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    OK now I understand. Thank you!
     
  7. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    I look a lot for IHC MPDs. Whenever I see raised metal that stands out from the denticles, I also wonder if they're MPDs--because it is possible. And MPDs come in all levels of "obviousness". There are MPDs called by Snow that I couldn't call myself--but still do make sense because of a bulge where one shouldn't be.

    And more IHCs MPDs are being discovered and catalogued all the time--unbelievable as that sounds after 100+ years! :D So far, there are no catalogued MPDs for 1864 IHCs of any type--but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Seeing the area against the date helps as does a few lighting angles--I've seen dramatic difference in what appears when I light differently. I do see something in the denticles--but more pictures will help.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2015
  8. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Oh yeah--the obverse die break looks like a match for Snow-16.
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Kurt
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    here's the 1870 date image Kurt 1870 DDO RPD MPD Snow 5.jpg 1870 date 2.jpg
     
  11. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Paddy, I'm sorry to say this...but I think your coin has just sustained a hit which looks very similar to the Snow-5 MPD. However, the actual MPD spans 3 denticles with one under the "bridge" the 0 makes. The date position is slightly different too...bummer. :(

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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    1870 8 bottom loop pup.jpg Kurt but here's one of the markers inside the loop
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Have a look at this one also 1865 fancy 5 I found what looks to be a 1 SW of the primary 1 1865 f5  AS.jpg 1865 f5 1 w.jpg 1865 f5 date.jpg 1865 f5.jpg
     
  14. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Dunno...the MPD just isn't shaped right, and the date position is different too--the big markers. I can also see the hit in the middle of the mark, which resembles the point of an old-style, square nail. That's my opinion, for what it's worth.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2015
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