is this gradable

Someone from a different group told me that I prob wouldn't be able to get this graded because of the toning. Then they said it prob wouldn't be worth it because it would prob only get a xf45. What do you all think ?

 

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I agree....with "them".

 

AT

 

Save your money.

Chris

 

Really a shame someone would do that to such a great coin as the Morgan.

 

Sure it's gradable. Any coin is. You just did when you called it an XF-45.


As to whether or not it's slabable with a non-details grade that's a different question. I doubt it. I also agree that even if it came back with a straight grade you would lose money on the transaction. At XF-45 it's a 70 dollar coin (maybe.) Why add another 40 dollars or so to whatever amount you already have in it?

 

OK thanks for the info

 

Grading has gotten ridiculous , you have to have a overly expensive coin for it to make it worth your time and money and there is no guarantee that it will make any difference. I like my coins raw in a good holder and if I decide to sell it , I still make my money and they can get it graded.

 

Is there a way to remove toning without damaging the coin? Because with this coin in hand it still has a beautiful luster

 

Personally bigbruiser, I grade the coin AU50 or 53, and the toning might be passable. One of the best ways to learn what is acceptable is to send it in. Try ANACS when they run a freebie, or tag along on someone's economy order for like $20. Advice here can be excellent and accurate, but if you want to know what professional TPG graders think, either show it to them at a show, or send it in.

 

Coin appears to be AU details with rim damage but real problem is that 'floating' tone that looks artificial. 96-O Morgan is relatively common in XF/AU. Save your money.

 

I second this. Sending in a coin for certification and grading doesn't have to be a strictly financial decision. If you can piggyback on someone else's submission, grading fees for economy tier run like $15 at ANACS.

Another good option is just taking it to a show and showing it to a couple of trusted dealers.

Personally, I think AU/XF details, questionable color is right, but there's one good way to find out, right? I'm guessing this coin has been cleaned as well due to some fine scratches on the obverse that all go the same direction and the fact that cleaned coins are frequently retoned.

There's a possibility soaking it in acetone will take it off. I've heard of some types of AT being removed by acetone, but I wouldn't count on it. This has the big advantage of being completely harmless to the coin if done properly.

Another option is to carry it as a pocket piece for a while. This will certainly wear the details, and there's no guarantee it will work, so you might end up with a high VF or low XF grade coin, and it might still have traces of that strange red color. Since this is not an incredibly expensive coin to begin with, this might me an acceptable risk.

Finally, if you're not attached to this particular piece, you can sell it for whatever you can get and buy an honest XF45 with eye appeal for maybe $100.

 

Lots of wear, rim dings, wierd color. A VF details coin at best, body bag at worst. Just enjoy the coin and use a picture grader to confirm the ballpark estimates thrown around.

 

If a coin is cleaned doesn't it usually lose it luster? This coin still has luster I can put it under a light and follow it all the way around

 

VF details... Crazy talk.

 

"is this gradable"

everything is 'gradable' the question is: will it come back details or not.

 

What do I study to learn the difference between artificial toning and natural toning?

 

Look at many stabbed coins - at those getting a star for exceptional toning (NGC) and at those with a QC/AT label.

 

Wish I could get my phone to take better pics.if you look at it in hand it looks nothing like the pic in hand it don't look as much of a plum color

 

Typically, yes, an improperly cleaned coin will have its luster damaged. I'm only speculating from your pictures.

What I was basing my guess on was the apparent scratches in the fields from roughly 7:00 to 9:00 on the obverse that all seem to go in the same direction. Those might not be scratches I'm seeing. It's hard to say based on the photo.

A better pic of the toning might cause me to change my opinion. Hard to say though. What color is it really, if not that funny reddish/purplish color?