rim error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by UnCommonCents, Apr 14, 2015.

  1. UnCommonCents

    UnCommonCents Variety Collector

    Lose your mind? Im here to FIND information. An educated answer to my question is all im looking for.
     
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  3. deacon2828

    deacon2828 Active Member

    OH BOY :)
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    That's my question as well.
     
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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The dentical lack of detail is not related to the clip. I can't explan what causes it but it is pretty common on the half dimes and dimes of the late 1840's through 1850's. I suspect there was something wrong with the hardening of the dies and the outer edges were too soft and flattened or sank from use. You sometimes will see it on the larger denominations but not a frequently as you do on the half dimes and dimes.
     
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  6. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Page 127 of Arnie Margolis and Fred Weinbergs "The Error Coin Encyclopedia", Fourth Edition, 2004, describes "Disk Clips" which essentially is an actual clip that is so small that it does not effect the circumference of the coin but is enough to disrupt the full formation of the rim or edge of the coin.

    Here's an example:

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    I believe that the OP's coin is the result of a double "Disk Clip" since the rim appears to be legitimately affected during the coining process.
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Thanks for the info, but I still have doubts about the OP's coin. For one thing, the four anomalies on the rim don't look anything like the photos you provided. Also, I could understand it being a double clip if they were positioned at 90 degrees to one another (on the end and the side of the sheet of metal) but they are not.

    I just can't help but wonder how far some error specialists have to go to find products to sell. Think about it! Some errors are becoming so minute that you need a microscope to see them. Maybe the hobby should impose a rule. "If you can't see it with the naked eye, it ain't so!"

    Chris
     
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  8. UnCommonCents

    UnCommonCents Variety Collector

    Thanks You!
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Isn't this kind of like saying "If I don't like it then it ain't collectable..."?
     
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  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It has nothing to do with liking something or not. It has everything to do with using a little common sense.

    Chris
     
  11. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Many RPD's and RPM's are not visible until you use a loupe, does this make the work of people like Snow, Wexler, and Daughtry much ado about nothing?
     
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  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I'm of a similar mind as cmp9ball - all the varieties and errors that are searched for with a microscope do not interest me. Hey, if someone wants to do that for fun then by all means they should have at it.
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Paddyman98 is quite correct in his diagnosis. You've got a "disc clip" and associated disruption of reeding from the Blakesley effect at the opposite pole.
     
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  14. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    I am also of the mind of collect what you like. What I was taking issue with was his statement "Maybe the hobby should impose a rule. "If you can't see it with the naked eye, it ain't so!"'. Just because some people don't care to collect minor varieties and errors doesn't require an hobby wide Ruling....
     
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