AU58 or MS61/2... is the only difference these days eye appeal?

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Seems like TPG's give MS grades to coins with slight wear, cabinet friction, whatever you want to call it, as long as they have eye appeal. Here's one of mine going to PCGS next week. I think it's an AU58 but may get a MS61 due to eye appeal and retained luster. What do you guys and gals think?
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  3. frostyluster

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    Probably low MS.
     
    frostyluster, Apr 11, 2015
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  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Generally, I agree with you regarding the grades they assign to borderline coins, but in this particular case I think AU58.
     
    ToughCOINS, Apr 11, 2015
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What's up with the obv central device CBD ? It looks like was sandblasted or acid etched or something.
     
    GDJMSP, Apr 11, 2015
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  6. cpm9ball

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    @C-B-D

    I don't know. I don't collect this series, but the obverse looks in bad shape to me. The central device looks very rough. It wouldn't surprise me if PCGS gave it a "Genuine" slab. Please post the results when you get it back. I'd love to know.

    Chris
     
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  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm not sure. It's a little weakly struck on there but has some circulation roughness of some sort. I don't think it was acid treated. It is weird how that "graininess" isn't in the fields around Liberty. Could it be die erosion or something?
     
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  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Will do. It'll be a while since I'm sending it economy.
     
    C-B-D, Apr 11, 2015
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  9. cpm9ball

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    I agree!

    Chris
     
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  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That's not from circulation buddy, somebody has done something to that coin.
     
    GDJMSP, Apr 11, 2015
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  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I'll send it off anyway. Will post results in several weeks when it gets back.
     
    C-B-D, Apr 11, 2015
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  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    How about this one? True AU58?
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    C-B-D, Apr 11, 2015
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  13. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    Yep. That's a 55.
     
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  14. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    I noticed that too, but I have seen cleaned EF-40 commem halves in NGC 62 holders, so I doubt that this would have a problem with an MS grade. It was probably cyanided at some point.
     
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  15. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I say most 58s deserve the 58 due ti what I call circulation hits on the field and devices . Here's an example of a 58 that deserves the 58 grade even with great luster and minimal wear.

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  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'm thinking someone tried to give it a cameo look . I wonder if the fields are slightly PL .
     
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  17. Bill1517

    Bill1517 Active Member

    In my opinion...not unc. Something funky with the obverse surface...
     
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  18. cpm9ball

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    I'd really like to see examples of these!

    Chris
     
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  19. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

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    This is my favorite AU-58
     
    treylxapi47, Apr 11, 2015
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  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Golly, I think you reached the first plateau, lol. If it gets MS, it will get 63 or 64.
     
    eddiespin, Apr 11, 2015
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  21. frostyluster

    frostyluster Member

    Lol, I didn't buy them, they were ugly hairlined problem coins! Sorry, I saw them in a coin store. I'll see if I can find one on the internet.
     
    frostyluster, Apr 11, 2015
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