Gold fourree fouree or ugly

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  1. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Not the prettiest coin i have but have been looking for a gold fourree for a while, cheep.

    Constantine X Ducas fourree, 1059 - 1067 AD.
    Gold Histamenon Nomisma.
    Obv. Christ Pantokrator seated facing on square back throne.
    Rev. Constantine X standing facing, holding labarum and pellet on shaft and globus cruiser.
    Mint Constantinople.
    Not in hand yet so no size or weight. it has been holed and wore down.:oops:
    post your fourree, fouree or ugly coins you have.:)

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    This is what a real one should look like. not the same coin.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice addition. They are interesting. Something on my want list but near the bottom.
     
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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh cool...what a weird and interesting coin ENG.

    ...and i always love seeing that sweet gold byzantine coin.

    doesn't DS have one of these?
     
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  5. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Cool pickup Eng. I think I saw this exact coin listed. Almost bid on it but didn't because I wasn't sure if it was a real fouree or simply a bronze that was plated more recently.
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I have an 'ugly' Fouree, but Roman Republic and unphotographed....so instead I will post one I'm about to receive and leave it 'anonymous' for a while and see if any of you can guess what it actually is---It's BUTT ugly and could fit in that previous thread of 'what it reminds one of'---The wicked witch of the west perhaps LOL

    Opps, I think I gave it away ....
     

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  7. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Interesting thing i remembered a coin i bought in a uncleaned 200 lot, when i started soaking it, i started to see gold, the weight wasn't there so i thought the mix had more silver than bronze, which could give it a gold color, now i think it's a golden fourree, not sure of who.

    Only thing i know is its 20mmx 2.30g.
    Any ideas would be great!!

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Way to go John. Even ugly coins need lovin' too.
     
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  9. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Cleopatra VII of Egypt
     
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  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    One book purports it to be of her, but everyone else says its a much earlier Cleopatra. It was minted in Cyprus.
     
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  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Of course, ancient historians speak of her sexuality and irresistible charm, but always note she was not the stunning beauty that Hollywood would have us believe.....and all her coins readily depict her rather plain and unattractive facial features..

    Yes, there appears to be a 'controversy' over which Cleopatra it actually is...
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Well, all of her portrait coins. Remember, though, these were done in profile, (not a great choice for a greek lady), and when she was much younger than before. Look at busts of her, though, and she is much more attractive than her coins show.
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Patience is a virtue.
    Phocas
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    Basil I and Constantine
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    Constantine VII & Romanus II - Gold over silver is super rare. Gold sticks to silver very well and probably was a lot harder to detect in the day.
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    Basil II & Constantine VIII (I love the way the copper was exposed only on the high points.)
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    Basil II & Constantine VIII This is a Miliaresion but no silver remains. Byzantine silver is much more scarce than gold.
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    Michael IV If you got stuck with a bad coin, you holed it and wore it as jewelry???
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    I do not have a cup shaped fourree. The above cost me between $3 and $40 between one and 30 years ago. Don't get carried away on these. There was a time I was the only person who would pay anything for these. My friends thought I was young and stupid. I'm not young now.
     
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  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Heck, if people want fourree byzantine I will pass along ones I see at auctions. They are not terribly uncommon. I usually remember them since its not unusual for me to see the listing, interested in it, only to read its a fourree and get mad. That fourree silver is more unusual I will grant you that.
     
  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's really strange...no clue ENG.

    oh man, i've got to get one of the byzantine fourees now. ugly but cool...


    just like me. :wacky:
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    wow, that's a nice lookin' fake gold thang, my West Coast friend!! (congrats)

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