FRAUDULENT CREDIT CARD SCAM Targeting Dealers Attending Major Coin Shows

As Chair of the ANA Dealer Relations Committee, I have been asked to pass on this message which looks like it began with the FUN show but has the possibility of affecting all major coin shows. Please pass this on to anyone you think it may affect. Thank you!

From Cindy Wibker, Bourse Coordinator for the FUN show: One of our FUN coin dealers in Florida received an interesting (and dangerous) phone call recently. Someone called him and said that the bourse fees for Summer FUN were increasing and the hotel rates had increased, and asked for his credit card information to charge the difference. Nothing involving FUN has increased, and thankfully the dealer was alert and didn't give them any credit card information. It appears the crooks are getting quite sophisticated now. In addition to the hotel scammers who call our dealers and offer hotel rooms at lower rates, we now have this to contend with. The hotel scammers are usually from the Las Vegas area, they do not have any hotel rooms, and the fine print in their contract allows them to charge your credit card for the room if they acquire one on your behalf, and then the hotel will also charge your credit card when you depart - i.e., double billing.

Our Florida dealer asked for the phone number of the person calling so he could check on this and call them back. He was given 877-312-7831 extension 303. I have not tried to call this number.

Feel free to pass this information along to everyone on your Numismatic Crime Information list. If FUN has any issues or questions about your bourse space, I will contact the dealers directly. If there is an issue with the hotel rooms booked, someone from the FUN housing bureau in Baltimore or Darcy will contact the dealers directly, but they will never ask for credit card information.

 

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It's always something, isn't it?

 

I found these sites by searching Google for the number you've provided, Charmy.
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...&oq=877-312-7831&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.1926j0j7
Definitely a scam.


Any time you receive a suspicious call, enter the number on your caller ID into Google. It's easy to find if it is a scam that way.

 

Thank God I sleep in my car........

 

Nothing like being mobile that reminds me of a song... name that tune...

 

Now I'm seeing the next song "Double vision " god you guys are fast!

 

That's one fat rat

 

Sorry for my insolence.....

 

That was 'Foreigner'......

 

And my apologies to Charmy. We've totaly hijacked a worthy and informative thread. Keep safe and be on the look out for shnooks my my fellow collectors.....

 

I think most now know not to click on any internet links received from email. It's obvious not to click a link from any email you do not know, but I don't even click on links that friends send. I figure even though they are well meaning, you never know where they got the link and you're depending on their judgment. If the link looks interesting, I Google it first, to see if it's legit, and click on the website directly to get the info.

I bring this up because the same thing should be done regarding phone calls. Do not ever give out personal info of any kind, especially financial info, to someone that calls you who you do not know. If they call and sound legit, in a courteous way tell them you'll call them back, Google them, find the website or phone number there, and you call them.

Sure there are exceptions, as when I received the confirmation link from CoinTalk because I just joined, I was expecting that, and clicked that link on the email to confirm. If you call a hotel, leave a voice mail, and they call you right back, that's obvious as well it's a legit call. But always err on the side of caution, and it's just a few easy steps as mentioned to safeguard your personal and financial life from scammers which is a nice word for criminals.

 

At this point you should never provide any personal information through ANY channel unless you can authenticate THEM. I don't care who they say they are, unless they can provide non-public information I WILL NOT TALK TO THEM.

Don't trust CallerID, don't trust what they say, don't trust them because they know where you live.

Ask for an extension and call them back on a published number - from your statement, the back of your credit card, etc.

Now, if I call Amex and inquire about a charge, and somebody calls me back with the information - that's to me - sufficient authentication. Sure NSA (hi guys!) has a recording of my original call to Amex and could spoof me, but pretty much that's a risk I'm willing to accept.

But a blind call - I don't care if it's "Rachel from Card Holder Services" or "Jamie from Amex". Tough. I will not give out ANY non-public information.

And you shouldn't either...

 

There was a recent thread in General Discussion about bad IRS (Bot) phone calls and fraudulent emails as well.

 

Yes... it's gotten worse and will only go downhill from there. The only way you can communicate safely is to always be the one initiating the contact.

 

I received a similar call today, most likely the same company.

The phone number was 702-800-5918


I did a reverse phone lookup




Then did a google search for the company associated with the number.



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