In the spirit of my friend Insider’s quizzes I have one for this weekend…

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Jack D. Young, Feb 25, 2023.

  1. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    ANACS described this example as “Repaired”; the question is do you think their description is accurate based on the images and if so, what was the method(s) used to repair this example?

    I offer up more images than in other quizzes and do not ask anyone to hold their responses:D


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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    600 coins were called back to attempt to remove Goldbrects name from over the date as it was too big. They settled on placing his initials below the shield. This coin looks like one that made to circulation?
     
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  4. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    To me repaired would imply the addition of metal, tooling & engraving in an attempt to make the coin look closer to how it was minted.
     
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  5. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    An attempt to smooth out some graffiti?

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  6. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    OK, any clue here?

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  7. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I've never seen a label like that, so it doesn't make any sense to me. Restrike? PF 20? Repaired? I fail this quiz. Oh well.
     
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    There's some suspicious roughness above the head. Could it be a filled hole, or perhaps a repair to grafitti?
     
  9. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    If this is Die Alignment IV, then the rough spot above her head would be opposite of the OF on the reverse, I think. So a hole that was located above the head and through the upper left serif of the F has been repaired?

    Or else I need another beer.
     
  10. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Another beer is always the answer! But you are correct with your alignment note and "aligns" with my two close up images:D...
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Drinks on the house...........! :)

    Peter?
     
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  12. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Evening clue- I sent this one in a group for metallurgical testing at an accredited Lab in Pennsylvania and had the following results:

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    I will state my “answer” Monday evening…
     
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  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Weight for a Goby is 26.73-26.96 grams. Tad under weight?
     
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  14. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Probably splitting hairs on a worn example, but the silver % is shown as 89.24 per the Red Book...
     
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  15. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    The upper left of F does appear squared off versus the other one, but I can't see anything corresponding on the obverse. If it's a repaired hole, they did a good job, and the hole must have been rather small.
     
  16. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

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  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    He's being polite and letting all us novices guess first...
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thanks for sharing. I wasn’t good at tests
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Nice raise
     
  20. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Well, the answer is NOTHING was done to this example…

    The TPG in their wisdom caught the “tooled F” and noted the repair, BUT the repair was done to a different coin.

    The genuine example had a small hole that was pretty well repaired prior to dies being made to strike a series of very deceptive counterfeits, which all that I have documented found their way into genuine TPG slabs, some sold in very prominent auctions as such.

    1836-2.jpg

    My example actually shipped from China via the Netherlands; as I noted I included it with some other early struck fakes for metalogical testing at an accredited Lab in Pennsylvania. The data indicated my example was not coined with 1836 coin silver…
     
  21. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Good one! I grew suspicious at the metallurgical results and knowing your specialty, but couldn't quite put two and two together. I'm amazed that you tracked it back to the original holed example. I see lots of marks duplicated.
     
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