Sure sounds like you're whining, as if your coins were really PL, you'd submit them to NGC. I guess they aren't, or you would have done so-- so, you're just like the seller that makes up his own designation to suit his own purposes.
My PL coins are in designated holders, but that says nothing about whether a seller should need to cross his coin before selling it as PL. I would have no problem buying PL coins in PCGS holders, but of course, unlike some people, I actually know what I am doing (gasp).
Ahhh, that sounds like a personal attack. Read the rules of the forum. I was discussing coins, you got personal . Just because I said your coins may have an arbitrary designation does not give you the right to resort to ad hominem verbiage.
So a coin has to be slabbed with the words PL in order for it to be proof like . Then was the coin Proof like before it was sent in and got the PL designation . And once I have the designation by NGC or PCGS , if I decide to crack it out does it lose the PL quality . A coin is either proof like or it isn't .
The term proof like has been around for much longer than any TPGs. How did they know they were PL without the label? It is just as subjective as every other aspect of grading.
That is not how it works, prooflike just has to due with dies being polished more than usual and the coins it strikes end up being shinier than most. A TPGs do not matter for a coin to be prooflike, you just have to watch out for misrepresented raw prooflikes.