Quiz: What kind of PMD is this?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Insider, Feb 21, 2023.

  1. psuman08

    psuman08 Active Member

    @ Insider I appreciate your quizzes. I'm rather new here so I don't know why there is all the animosity, nor do I care.

    It looks to me like damage from a bezel, making it a details coin and hurting its value.
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Animosity is part of the human spirit. It can come out in many ways and for different reasons. None of it bothers me personally and I enjoy the opportunity to drop down to their :clown::bucktooth::stinkyfeet: level and turn loose the :troll: Devil inside me.

    It is not damage from a bezel. Bezels go around the entire rim and there is no damage on either side of the mark.

    Now for the answers. I tried to throw members off by suggesting this might be PMD. I figured once the answers started, the Mint Error guys would set us straight. Apparently, they got bored with the discussion because I asked them to hold off.

    The clue is on the edge. You'll see open cracks. This is a planchet flaw. Metal did not reach this part of the coin's edge. How does this affect the grade? It doesn't affect the actual grade EXCEPT for folks who like to net grade for defects. How does it affect the value? It could go either way but mostly down. I should prefer this coin to a normal without the flaw. Most collectors want coins with no detractions of any kind so this coin would probably be priced below a normal coin.
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's what I thought, but only because I've seen a very similar effect on a (well-circulated) Franklin half. On that coin, the flaw was deep enough to weaken the strike around it, and also diametrically opposite (Blakesley effect).

    Since I've had this instructor before, I knew better than to ask for whole-coin pics, or to trust the thread title. ;)
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This is exactly why I said that I didn't believe it happened in the striking process. The metal is not disturbed.
     
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  6. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    And you expect me to believe/trust that you are telling the truth? Or that he's right about what the "answer" is? lol
     
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  7. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    You are correct but IMO, it is a Yes and No. Apparently the planchet was defective; however, during the striking process the flaw may or may not have been obliterated. It is a chicken/egg thing.
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "No, Mr. Corgi, I expect you to..." oops, sorry, wrong movie.

    I kinda hope nobody will pay too much attention to my post, given that I don't provide any images of the coin I had in mind. I'll see if I can dredge some up. With that one, if I remember correctly, the consensus was that it was a planchet flaw, specifically a "ragged clip" (but a very, very small one).
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Although most flawed planchets can be remedied by the strike. Fissured and cracked planchets are usually the exception.
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Before posting the next quiz are there any members who disagree or who wish to add anything to this thread?
     
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  11. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Nough said.
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Actually it is more fun to just wait until the end. Insider can you post a photo of the microscope/camera/lights you used for those photos. The focus for the depth is nice.

    Jim
     
  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I thought it was some interference during the strike
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yes. I liked it. Makes cents
     
  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    It will take a few days.

    LOL, that means I'll find something immediately!
     
  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Did he say PMD, or PMS? Still wondering?

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