ACG and the ANA?

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  1. Coin Chick

    Coin Chick Loves Gold

    Who can fill me in on the details?
     
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  3. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    Are you talking about the complaint that ACG recently made regarding interference in a transaction between ACG and a customer by one of the ANA governors?
     
  4. laz

    laz New Member

    BRAVO! Anyone have the details on that? ~ Jim :p
     
  5. coinluvr

    coinluvr New Member

    I would like to hear this too.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The ANA found that the "ANA can not condone ASA Accugrade grading
    standards and believes that those standards can mislead the end
    consumer with regard to the value of the numismatic item being
    purchased". And that the Board "recognizes based upon the
    information provided at the hearing as well as the opinions expressed
    by many of the witnesses called, that a significantly larger percentage
    of grading errors appear to be made by ASA Accugrade then by other
    grading services"


    The Board of Governors also stated: "We recognize and applaud Barry Stuppler's
    passion for consumer protection and his efforts to insure that the numismatic
    industry, including coin grading, does not take advantage of unknowledgeable
    consumers." However, since the ANA found that he did not violate the Member
    and Dealer Code of Ethics, he was very surprisesd that the ANA Board of
    Governors did find that he violated the ANA Board Member Code of Ethics,
    Section 13:

    "A Board member shall maintain the highest standard of personal
    conduct: promote and encourage the highest level of ethics within
    the numismatic profession: and maintain loyalty to the Association"
     
  7. laz

    laz New Member

    Just found it on the web too. 8) check out this site,it also has notorized letters and other goodies that show the high standards ACG crawls after
    http://www.k6az.com/acg.htm This information should be included in every ebay auction and every transaction they do.This proves what we've known for a long time,stay with the major services ANACS,NGC,and PCGS or like the TV commercial for Sunkist Oranges used to say,if it doesn't say Sunkist,you just don't know what your getting! ~ Jim

    http://www.k6az.com/
     
  8. Bill Henderson

    Bill Henderson New Member

    Second time I've seen this site mentioned here. I'm really surprised he isn't sued yet.
     
  9. laz

    laz New Member

    Hard to sue someone in order to prevent them from telling the truth. These articles are all public record,and I've even seen other law suites against the ACG,that were published on the web. I hear that a entire group got banned from bidding in their auctions! I'm sure they are not losing much business by doing this. Most active member's of coin clubs or message boards get the correct information and more than likely wouldn't bid anyway. If we were friends,I'd ask them to do the same for my group (instant buyer protection) Like every person going through life,they have earned their reputation's,one transaction at a time. ~ Jim
     
  10. Coin Chick

    Coin Chick Loves Gold

    Thanks for the info guys.
     
  11. A Barnes

    A Barnes New Member

    Their excuse is that they have their own grading scale?
     
  12. Stujoe

    Stujoe New Member

    Yep, he put in his auctions for a while that they couldn't bid. Many of us were specifically banned by Ebay ID also. :)
     
  13. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    That was a result of the fun and games between Hagar and Mr. Tillery, wasn't it?
     
  14. laz

    laz New Member

    That's one of their excuses,but you'll note that this use of their own grading standards is never mentioned in any of their ads. I find this to be a rather questionable buisness practice.JMOHO. ~ Jim
     
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