64 & 67 IHP's thoughts........grade........value

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Twobit, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. Twobit

    Twobit Active Member

    IMG_0867.JPG IMG_0850.JPG IMG_0846.JPG IMG_0861.JPG Had em for awhile now,wanting a set in this grade range (funds availability) gonna be a slow process no doubt.

    Not quite sure what to do with the 64 at this point (hoping soap & water and a quick soak in acetone will save it).

    Also been thinking about sendin em to PCGS.

    Problem is I want one of every thing from 1800-2015 on a limited tight budget.
     
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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    They both look like nice AUs, but I see some hairlines in the 64, and it may come back with a details grade.

    If soap and water doesn't do the trick, I would go with verdicare before trying acetone.
     
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  4. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It looks like you posted two photos of one reverse based on the marks in the 2 o'clock rim area.
     
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  5. Twobit

    Twobit Active Member

    yeah I noticed that just fixed it.
    But now the 67 rev is on the top not the bottom.
    Not quite sure how to put them in the right order w/o deleting/starting a new thread but It'll work I guess.
     
  6. Twobit

    Twobit Active Member

    I've never used verdicare.
    Will that remove/neutralize that green spot??
     
  7. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Both are around AU-53 or AU-55, I have to admit, that 1867 looks very nice it had me drooling on my screen. I would say $250 for it.

    The hairlines on the 1864 might not be cleaning, they look like a toning pattern on the coin. $100 or so if not cleaned like Kirkuleez said, I personally do not think it is cleaned though.
     
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  8. Twobit

    Twobit Active Member

    bought em 5-6 years ago original skins couldn't pass em up
    $125 for the pair.
     
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  9. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    I'm jealous. Incredible deal for those coins. $125 is a little outside my budget for coins but I would have jumped on that deal anyways.
     
  10. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Yes, it's a good product and I've used it with good success. BadThad is a member here, so you can either contact him, or find it in eBay. It's not a cheap product, but a little goes a very long way for small spot cleaning of verdigris. He sells small sample size bottles if you just want to try it out.
     
  11. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    After looking at the larger images, I agree, it looks more like light wood grain than cleaning hairlines.
     
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  12. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    IHP?
     
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  13. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    The P is silent; like in pneumatic.
     
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  14. Twobit

    Twobit Active Member

    Indian Head Penny
     
  15. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Commonly referred to as IHC. Indian Head Cent.
     
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  16. Twobit

    Twobit Active Member

    Been calling them Indian Head Penny's for 40 years

    In the future I'll try not to be both ignant & stupid and just ingant
     
  17. robertxavier

    robertxavier Member

    hello, my name is robert and i am new to coins, i'm sort of lost on here, and planning to start a collection, a woman in town has a 1914 barber dime worn a little, but nice edges, not in a holder, what is a fair estimate price to purchase this from her? i spoke to a coin dealer and he said maybe a few dollars... i need help with all of this! any help would be appreicated.. thank u for your time, - robert
     
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  18. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    If it has no letter on the back under the wreath than it is worth around $5 in the condition you say it's in
    (I'm guessing it is in this condition)
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    If it has a letter "D" on the back it is also worth around $5. If it is has the little "S" on the back it is worth around $8.



    Compare the coin that the woman has to examples shown on the link below to see how it grades. It's value completely depends on the grade.
    http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Barber10/Grades
     
  19. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Agreed--my first take was "wood grain", which is caused by improper alloying of the bronze--very common to some years of IHCs.
    The green spots could be a few things: it could be just a bit of loose dirt that has reacted to copper in the coin, but usually you see these in recesses rather than on top of the portrait. Or, it could be a (stable) bit of verdigris. The worst case scenario would be "bronze disease" or copper chloride, which will continue to eat into the coin. In any case, a short distilled water soak could help and certainly not harm the coin. I would avoid picking at the spots because it would probably reveal discoloration beneath. BadThad knows the chemistry and would have the best advice here.

    As for grading, I found both tricky to give a definitive grade--the pics are sorta dark.
     
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  20. Wheatmaster101

    Wheatmaster101 U.S. Cent Collector

    In my opinion the 1864 is cleaned due to the hairlines.
     
  21. robertxavier

    robertxavier Member

    hey, thanx! the coin is actually in better condition, you can read the whole word "liberty" on the headband, i have pictures that she emailed me , but i'm trying to figure out how to post them on here.
     
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