Learning About Rainbow Toning

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tcore, Mar 27, 2007.

  1. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Seems almost pointless to say this, as it's really just a matter of personal preference, but for the most part I just don't care for toning (as far as I'm concerned, "toning" is just a euphamism for "tarnish," and in any sane world it should lower the value of a coin, not raise it!). I understand the reality that some people do like toning, and I don't think it's unreasonable for coins with toning that some find attractive to carry a small premium for the sake of those it appeals to, but I don't get why some carry large premiums because of it. And I agree with GDJMSP, if you can't tell the difference between a coin that's "naturally" toned with one that's "artificially" toned, what difference does it make? For that matter, if you CAN tell the difference, what difference does it make? If you want toned coins so bad, why not just buy them untoned, tone them yourself, and pocket the savings to buy more coins? May ruin the value doing that, but if you just want toned coins in your collection and don't intend to sell them anyway, so what?

    And don't get me started on "monster toning," a term that I consider synonymous with "butt-ugly toning." (I always assumed the reason they called it "monster toning" was that just like a monster, it is something you want to quickly get away from, lol...)
     
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  3. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    Very excellent responses by all. GD, I appreciate the explanation of how coins can tone in bags like this. What do you think of the coins with the double rings? Does it make sense that these maybe sat in a bag for a while with a coin on top of them, then the coin on top of them got moved a little and left a second ring?
     
  4. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    There was a fellow on another list who actually figured out a way to artificially tone Morgans and in PCGS holders. Many made it into the market. Just another little secret the slabbers don't advertise..

    Do a search on manofcoins at this site, http://forums.collectors.com/categories.cfm?catid=26
     
  5. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

  6. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I'm quite certain already but what do you guys think of this one? I bought it about a year ago on ebay.

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  7. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    looks like a chemical spill :eek:
     
  8. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    Probably, LOL.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Do you realize how many millions of coins we are talking about here ? That's why there are so many.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It's certainly possible, but it's more likely the second ring came after the coin left the vaults. Many of these coins were bought by the bag - 1,000 at a time. And then they sat in a dealer's shop or a collector's home for decades. You can also get ring like toning from storing the coins in albums or even 2x2's, coin flips, manila envelopes - whatever.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not uncommon to have natural toning look just like that.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Since we are talking about toning here, what about this one - is it real ?


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  13. Slu

    Slu Senior Member

    Here are some "interesting" ones from current eBay listings:

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    Haha, what do you guys think about these?
     
  14. claw

    claw Senior Member

    Wow!!! That is awesome. Looks like AT to me. It wouldnt matter to me if it was. Thats one beautiful coin.
     
  15. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    I don't see the point of toning copper, isn't red still the best color for copper ?

    The GW dollar is comical, toned in a few weeks.

    The quarter looks way too blue, but pretty.

    I'm convinced that toning can no longer justify huge premiums, you can't tell for certain how it got there. Its like artwork now, guys can paint the coin about any color they want.
     
  16. bgarg

    bgarg Senior Member

    Yes.

    Few years back, after reading a post in 'Coin World Forum', I wrapped couple of these restrike MTs in tissue papers and left them near my window. When checked last December (after almost three years), both of them had similar toning.

    Now, how many of you will call this AT?

    Regards
    Ballabh Garg
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Tell you the truth, it wouldn't matter to me if you told me, "I put it in a potato and cooked it for 3 years in an oven, I mean it, I mean it, I mean it, I mean it!" In my humble opinion, this coin is nothing short of magnificent.
     
  18. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Nice;) , I think the toning has been accelerated just a bit on those coins!! Now mabey we need to add accelerated toning to our list of terms. Even natural toning has to have a catylist to occur, it just takes a few years longer to occur.
     
  19. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    I ended up buying the third coin in my first post. I thought it had a very nice, even rainbow toning to it that doesn't go too far. A couple of those I posted are turning black, which I don't find too attractive. I more or less just wanted a nice example of a rainbow toned coin to add to my collection. This one also has the added benefit of being an NGC Star coin (MS64*), which I think is kind of cool. Who knows, it could be the first of many rainbow toned coins for me!
     
  20. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    With all the web sites for just about anything on Earth, guess what? There is a thing called Toned Coins Collectors Society. Naturally it is www.tonedcoins.org
    If you want to learn more that may be the place.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Aint it amazin - that's exactly how this coin got its color, from being wrapped in tissue paper for storage :thumb: It's 100% natural toning.
     
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