Help me identify this ancient coin please

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Dougmeister, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    See pics. It's pretty beat up.

    Also, is it genuine (if it matters in this condition).

    Thanks.
    obv.jpg rev.jpg
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It's from Roman Egypt. What's the size and weight? It's probably a tetradrachm made of billion, a debased silver. The emperor is Hadrian. The reverse shows the serpent Agathodaemon standing erect right. The year is L-B, regnal year 2, 117-118. Reference: Emmett 803, year 2, rarity 1. If it is smaller it could be a diobol with the same reverse. That's a much rarer coin (at least per the book), Emmett 1111 year 2, rarity 5
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    It looks like an issue of Hadrian from Alexandria, but that nose on the portrait is disturbingly large.

    Others members of the board have better knowledge and will probably chime in with their thoughts, but the size and weight of the coin would help.
     
  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Oh, and there you go :).
     
  6. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Guess the emperor really paid off!!!!
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That, and owning Emmett's book :D
     
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  8. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    @TIF and @zumbly here are the weight and dimensions:

    12.1g
    diameter: 23mm
    thickness: 4mm

    Is this another coin of that type (better picture, someone else's coin):
    Emmett 803.5

    Could it be this one?
    Emmett 804.10

    The obverse of my coin looks like the first link, but the reverse doesn't seem to match, looking more like the 2nd?
     
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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    It's a tetradrachm. It looks authentic to me.
     
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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Yours is definitely Emmett 803 (Agathodaemon alone on the reverse). 804 has Agathodaemon and a Uraeus.

    The styles vary quite a bit even with the same type so the different appearance of yours vs the Forvm example is not concerning.
     
  11. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Great. Thanks!

    In this shape, is it possible to get a value on it?
     
  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    It has got to be worth an Andrew Jackson note !!!
     
  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hard to say. You'll need to search Vcoins, eBay, CoinArchives, CNG's archives, etc to get an idea. The type comes up somewhat frequently but usually in at least slightly better condition. It's still a very cool coin though!
     
  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    more appropriately the question was answered centuries ago....

    "Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it."
    - Publius Syrius
     
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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Looks like an authentic Tet to me too....and at auctions (Forum etc) it seems to draw about $30-$75 in bids....of course if it is a scarce variety even more...but I concede such distinctions to TIF and the other more knowledgeable members here...

    I think it's a cool coin!!
     
  16. matty 440

    matty 440 Member

    Well its circulated they are not worth much if there circulated
     
  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    :D Excellent joke! Welcome to CoinTalk, Matty!
     
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  18. matty 440

    matty 440 Member

    Really it wasn't a joke hi tif
     
  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hi Matty. Have you been collecting modern coins? If so, the concepts and standards for ancient coins are much different. Cleaning is okay. Circulated is okay. Virtually all ancient coins are cleaned. They have to be-- they have been buried in dirt, collecting dust, or otherwise subjected to the elements for centuries or millennia.
     
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  20. matty 440

    matty 440 Member

    All coins and I Google all of them you should to
     
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  21. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Me too. The thing about ancient numismatics is....believe it or not there are things you simply cannot Google, but they do a fine job of it. I would Google "Doug Smith Ancient Coins" read eat, eat it, digest it, rinse and repeat.
     
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