The Official Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle Thread

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@Rheingold : If you're using a camera for this, you could use a stack of books as a ghetto stabilizing stand, rather than holding the phone freehand. BTW, I notice your reverse pic is much sharper than your obverse pic for some reason. Whatever you did there, maybe keep doing it.

 

Please, don't be concerned about photography skills, as I have been trying unsuccessfully for years to produce the Heritage quality images.

I've a self-designed/fabricated dark room large stand with carousel 2 tier course/fine adjustment tilting base, quadrant lamps with adjustable intensity/filters, high resolution "steady shot" camera having auto/manual X14 focus, with macro lens, secured on an adjustable gear vertically driven controlled theta adjustment camera mount.

There still are critics, including myself, and I still haven't consistently approached Heritage quality images.

Photography is an art requiring time and patience.

In my opinion, your image provided here is more than adequate to know this coin is an unique beautiful specimen, although having bag rub precluding GEM technical status, minimal ray dings, the devices and fields appear beautiful. A specimen I'd love to have!!

Is it possible for you to post a full slab obverse image?

 

I noticed the same thing....

 

Thanks imrich for your gentle help...I'll do my best and will learn furthermore.

 

Those are good pics, but they almost look 'textbook-ish' instead of real-life pics. You don't see much in the way of luster, shine, reflection, etc.

As long as the coin isn't throwing back a glare spot and is crystal clear, that's usually enough to see the major pluses and minuses.

Ebay pics are pretty good for the most part. Again, if the lettering is without any fuzziness the pics are usually fine.

Agreed.........

I find the full-slab pics great because if the pixel count is big enough or the site allows for zoom-ins, you can blow-up the picture anyway for close-ins, rather than make the original just of the coin with no background.

 

Question: Am I reading this right for completed 1924 MS65 Saints ?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-Paper...ld&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

It appears that a few coins got sold at auctions in December/January for a few hundred less than what more-heavily bid Ebay auctions did more recently. 1 of the coins was even PCGS rated, I guess the others were not though they still appear to have gone for a miniscule premium over spot gold.

 

Still remember buying/selling PCGS 65 Saints for $800-850

 

You want to look at "sold listings" only. When I did that, I got one at $1100 that was listed as "pickup only/part of a live auction event," one for $1239 that's not even certified and looks possibly fake, and a bunch that went for $1500+.

 

Let me know if you find any of those... [emoji12]

 

Yeah, that's what I saw too Paul.....I think the $1,100 was the outlier. The others were not TPG rated and after that the coins were all $1,500+.

 

Bought two PCGS MS61 rattles.

 

Those are beautiful. You can lie to me when I ask "did you get those for Grey Sheet?" Just Kidding!! Nice!!

 

I was able to buy PCGS Saints at CDN bid during the 1990's, but not these days. I had to paid $1305 ea.

 

In my opinion, that's a good price for a couple "MS64" coins. That 1924 is the coin for which @Dougmeister is searching (See: Tips for Hunting $20 Saints).

JMHO

 

LCS ?

 

where can I buy PCGS MS64 Saints at CND bid?

 

Ebay

 

It's believed that only C.D.N. personnel have located that wonderful place of which they publish. My associates state they've gone to a fantasy-land, and grimace when I ask where are they locating the treasures of which they print.

Then again, it's believed the publisher stated that future values would be not be based on tangible/defendable/defensible facts published by an "independent" majoritively reporting agency/firm. It appears that the recently documented values, seemingly appreciably recently reduced, may be based upon those dreamed/wished by the publication principals/constituents.

Probably only an adjudication will determine if a public/private? "newspaper" can create subjective? information which possibly affects the "investments" of many.

It's my opinion that you may have found a source for locating that which you desire, as you've stated a purchase price less than the current documented C.D.N. value for an item which I believe can be shown to be of at least the current MS64 grading standards of some. I've recently received MS64 graded coin of that type from a "premier" TPG that seemingly doesn't parallel the stellar characteristics of those viewed in your post.

Me? I'm only the "Devil's Advocate", possibly just a "fool", not to be received in earnest.

Probably, only time will tell.

JMHO

 

$3,500 For A Saint -- What Would You Buy ?

Friend of mine may go to the Parsippany show this Sunday and wants to spend $3,000 - $4,000 (tops) on a real good Saint-Gaudens. Probably not starting a collection, he has bullion, just wants to buy 1 really top-notch coin.

I am torn between recommending going REALLY HIGH on grade for a plain common, like MS66 or MS67 on a 1924, 1927, or 1928.

Or maybe MS65 for a mint mark coin or something with a story like the Wells Fargo Hoard or the No Motto coins. Don't think I can get MS66 or MS67 for those given his budget.

Suggestions appreciated from any Saint experts !