Trivia: U.s.a. Nickel

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Clinker, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    The United States Nickel (five cents) coin is our longest running coin whose composition today is the same as when the coin was first minted in 1866.

    In fact, the composition of 25% nickel and 75% copper was constant except for the Second World War (1942-1945) issues which were produced with a composition of 56% copper, 35% silver and 9% mangnanese.


    Note: There was another constant:

    The United States Nickel always weighed five grams including the WWII 35% silver ones.

    Does anyone know of any other coin minted in 2007, American or other country, whose composition and/or weight has remained constant for a longer period than THE U.S.A. nickel? It would be interesting to know.

    Clinker
     
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  3. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Umm....Clinker...if that is true the WII issues have more silver in them (by weight) than a WII quarter........
     
  4. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Jerome,those Warnicks,as those .350 fine silver 5c. coins are commonly known as,have a very distinctive yellowish colour.That is how you can tell,apart from looking at the huge mintmarks above Monticello on the reverse.

    Aidan.
     
  5. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Jerome,how do you figure that?:confused:
     
  6. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member


    Mike,I was wondering the same thing.I am always finding at least 1 Warnick every time my boss buys in a bulk lot of U.S. coins,especially the 1c. Lincolns & 5c. Jeffersons.

    Aidan.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That is absolutely true. The war nickels have more silver per dollar face value than any other US circulating coinage. The early silver dolars (<1935) contain 0.77344 oz. 20 war nickels contain 1.1252 oz. of silver.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    I can think of 2 of the top of my head - the Maria Theresa thaler, 259 yrs if memory serves. The Netherlands ducat, 421 years.
     
  9. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    TO rim's cents

    See how easy that was...and thanks for the calculations....

    Clinker
     
  10. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    To GDJMSP

    You are right on both coins....The big difference is 2007 U.S.A. nickels are not only minted for collectors in mint sets and proof sets, but,also, as general circulation coins while the Maria Theresa Thalers are struck by The Vienna Mint for collectors only and the Netherlands Ducat is struck as a "trade" coin, a bullion coin, and a collectors coin.

    Clinker
     
  11. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    As usual this is interesting and just one of the many things I didn't know. Now was anyone here around when they first started those coins to verify that?;)
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator



    Uhh yeah - I do believe Roy was :D
     
  13. satootoko

    satootoko Retired


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  14. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    WOW clinker. You got me running to my Red Book on that one. I would have sworn that the old Liberty Head and Indian Head Nickels were loaded with Silver or something that made them wear out like they do. Especially the old Liberty Head ones. They are always looking like someone dragged them down a street. but your right as usual.
     
  15. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    The composition of the U.S. 5c. nickels are no longer pure nickel.They are in fact,cupro-nickel.I don't know when the change from nickel to cupronickel occurred,but I can tell you that Canada stopped issuing nickel 5c. coins in around 1982 & started issuing cupro-nickel 5c. coins.

    Aidan.
     
  16. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Aidan - when did the US ever issue pure nickel coins?

    I'm admittedly not an expert on US coinage, but my Red Book says that every US nickel from 1866 to the present (except the 1942-45 "silver nickels" are cu-ni with a 75/25 composition.

    Can you possibly admit to being wrong? You are free to borrow my [​IMG] icon if you wish. :D
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The U.S. nickel never used pure nickel. The first nickel produced (1866) was 25% nickel and 75% copper.
     
  18. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Thanks for clarifying that,as the newer U.S. nickels have a different ring to the older nickels.That is where I probably got confused.

    I am one who has paid more attention to the Canadian nickel 5c. series.

    Aidan.
     
  19. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    To Aiden

    And I didn't know that much about the nickel. I saw a half-line mention of the length of minting...then came a few hours of research...Viola!

    Clinker
     
  20. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Must be something in the New Zealand air. [​IMG]

    Here in California I mixed 20 pre-2000 nickels with one of each Westward Journey and Return to Monticello. Without looking at them I pushed each one over the edge of a small shelf onto a wooden desk from a height of 4 inches. Neither my Beautiful Bride nor I could detect any difference. Of course none of them "rang", but they all "clunked" alike.
     
  21. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Maybe should have been made of "bell" brass? lol...

    Clinker
     
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