gtg: photo cert edition!

I am displeased to announce, we have no winner here....

 

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I knew this would be tricky....

 

Can you believe i paid $45 for this?? The owner had a stack of these all graded 64/64 some were ACTUALLY 63s some 64s they obviously werent the best graders....So I cherried the best looking one and Id grade this atleast a 65 maybe a 66....

 

If you got the best one, he should sell the rest to me for $25.

 

Way Cool Man!

Erik

Edit to add: and she was graded on Halloween 1986!

 

Thats a steal for 45 bucks. HOw many were in his stack?

 

By today standards it would probably be a MS65, but in the early seventies they were more strict in grading those coins.
So I guess MS 63 obverse and 64 reverse.

 

Sorry I have seen the coin was graded in 1986.....So please let me try again...64 Obv and 65 rev.

 

I love these old certs. Something to keep in mind. After 30 years many of these coins have been messed with. They get a quick dip and if they come out nice they go in for a modern slab. This practice has left many problem coins with the original certs. Just something to be careful of.
I'm not saying the OP coin is a problem coin but I would bet it had a dip in the past 30 years.

 

Id say theres another 6-7.... Im hoping he attends the next upcoming show on sunday as im gonna buy more if theres any left...

 

I hear you , I started collecting stamps at 10 , spent all my silver dimes and quarters to pay for em

 

To me that date adds value... I was 7 yrs old trick or treating that day sprinting from house to house like a deer.... oh and another thing thats cool was that it tells you who said coin belonged to...All of them in the stack were local shops here in town that have since closed their doors... So theres local history here too... This one's pelco coin galleries, wish they were still around,sounds high end

 

According to Conder's history:

"Begun by the ANA in 1972, grading did not start until March 1979 for US coins and Non-US in 1987. Slabs were not used until 1988..."

The photo certs were an option into late 1989.

ANACS was originally located in Washington DC (reportedly to use the Smithsonian as their 'reference library'). For many years grading was an option, so many generations of the photo certs are known with and without grades.

 

Well.... i hate to to disappoint you but this is NOT an anacs cert lol.... look again...I thought it was too @ 1st

 

True enough - missing that because everyone was saying ANACS...

Again from Conder:

"NCI (Numismatic Certification Institute)
Started by Heritage Rare Coin Gallery in 1984. ... (Examination of existing NCI coins today seems to indicate that either the overgraded coins have been selectively cracked out or they were not as overgraded as everyone made then out to be. I'm not saying that overgraded coins in NCI coins didn't exist, but that they weren't as frequent or as bad as the market said they were.) NCI eventually faded away. I am not sure when they finally closed their doors. ... Eight types of certificate, at least one type of slab. I can't rectify the dates of usage on the certificates. Several different varieties appear to have been used at the same time."

This is NCI2:

"2. Photocertificate of a style similar to ANACS 5. Seven lines of text on front label, third line starts to the right of line two. Owners valuation on front of certificate. Text on back upright relative to front. NCI's address is now in the Heritage building on Market Street. Copyright 1985. Has disclaimer "This is not an ANACS certificate". Earliest date seen 4/23/86. Latest seen 1/29/87"