The Bruck Thread

#47 FEL TEMP REPARATIO



Constans AE Centenionalis. 348-350 AD. 2.8g, 18mm

OBV: D N CONSTANS P F AVG, Draped and cuirassed bust right.

REV: FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Constans standing left on galley, holding phoenix and labarum, piloted by Victory. TESB in ex.

REF: RIC VIII Thessalonica 120

 

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What a fun thread! If I collected LRBs I'd probably try for a "one of each" based on Bruck's book.

 

#40 SPES ROMANORVM



Flavius Victor AE 4. 387-388 AD. 0.7g, 12mm

OBV: D N FL VICTOR P F AVG, Diademed bust right.

REV: SPES ROMANORVM, camp gate with star between two turrets.

REF: Uncertain

 

You have Flavius Victor. Well done!

 

#50 Constantine I

Most of the ships came out when they were listed under animals.

#45 Constantius II has a Victory instead of a Phoenix so it is not a repeat.


#53 Theodosius with no wreath around the cross


#56 Pop Romanus is a less common fraction or the Commemoratives and about as uninteresting as they get when presented in low grade like mine.

 

I agree with the fun thread part but I do collect late Roman and would not ever be able to get one per illustration. So far we have only covered 3 pages of his preliminary index. I doubt this thread will survive into the second section where the real meat of the book resides. He gets really fine toothed when sorting out minute differences there but that is the whole point of the book. In many cases it allows certain ID of coins with no mintmark or even a few cases where you can get by with no legend at all. Most of us have coins way too nice to make full use of the book but it sure helps to know what features to look for. It might be interesting to ask folks to post examples of coins that can be IDed fully only because of Bruck.

 

*rats*

=> I don't have a single example from that most recent example-page!! (not a one!!)

... more coins ... must buy more coins!!

 

The book arrived today and the first chapter "Basic Concepts" told me things that I wish I had known a couple of years ago when I first started collecting. I have used Tesorillo in the past, but this is a whole different ball game. This is one purchase I am not going to regret.

 

I think you guys have convinced me to this book

 

If only we could get kickbacks from all the things we have caused each other to buy, we would all be able to buy nicer coins. Who here has not bought a coin type because we saw one posted by one of our resident pushers?

 

I trust all saw the first of these on another CT thread today:
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/f-h-outside-const-dynasty.260685/

 

I do it ALL the time. Recently it was obsolete currency another user posted in the currency forum.

I got into ancient just because of you, Randy and at the time, Rex & Stainless

 

Heh - now I've got to go looking for coins that can't be ID'd without Bruck.

Shouldn't be too hard to find a handful on eBay.

 

I believe These are #43 and #42

 

I'm going to retract what I said earlier about not posting coins for attribution, with apologies to Charles. Bruck is, after all, a guide to attributing coins that have details missing. If we don't use it as such, we've completely missed the point.

Doug attributed an earlier coin of Charles' to the Cyzicus mint. In the post I quoted above, I knew the coin belonged to either Constantius II or Constans, but since the right side of the obverse legend is missing, which one is it?

If I read Bruck correctly (p.89), he tells me the legend break on the obverse makes it a coin of Constantius II. Constans has the legend break CONSTA-NS for every mint except Alexandria. From the pic, however, I can't tell if the mint is Nicomedia or Cyzicus. I'm leaning toward SMN?.



Since we've gone off on this tangent, I'll post my two coins of this VOTA type, Constantius II and VRBS ROMA. Doug is right: we probably won't get this far into the book...

 

JA. I believe you were right about what you said earlier. I need to apologize .

 

No, no big deal. Like I said, Bruck's book is designed specifically to attribute coins with missing detail. We SHOULD be using it for that purpose.

 

Sorry little behind,not sure #37



#54

 

How bout #57



Since you have this new found info i got this coin last year and no one could attribute it, can we find it now??

 

Great John! Just what we need. Here's the pertinent diagram from Bruck...



Looks like your coin is one of the kids, since you can clearly read IVN NOB C on the obverse. Altar type is from Trier mint, and what's left of the mint mark does indeed look like STR. The abbreviation of the reverse legend as VICTORIAE LAET PP is also recorded as unique to Trier.

I'm thinking Licinius II, because there isn't enough room on the right side of the obverse for either of the two legends of Constantine II that Bruck lists: CL CONSTANTINVS...and CONSTANTINVS.

If I'm correct, the coin is unlisted in RIC. The closest RIC comes is VII Trier 232, but 232 has a right-facing radiate bust. I think you've got a rare coin there. It's the first I've seen of this variety, anyway.