The Bruck Thread

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Ah a fallen horseman thread where my money is no good.

    Great coins all. Fascinating.

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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That leaves #16 which is a Thessalonica only issue of Valentinian II Theodosius I and Arcadius.
    Our own Warren has all three on his page:
    http://esty.ancients.info/ricix/type34i.html


    Finally we have the pair from Magnentius of Rome only #17 and #18.

    http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/magnentius/_rome_RIC_177.jpg #17
    #18 is a rarity I have not seen where the bird on flag is replaced by a small bird not on flag and the scene turned the opposite direction according to the Bruck drawing. I'll put #17 on my want list but #18 is not a realistic want even.

    I'd be a bit surprised if any of us have these even though RIC says #17 is a common.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    MR has a very nice LIB ROMANORVM #17, but I'm not looking to spend $420 on a "common" LRB today, so let's move on to the next diagram. We should have a lot of fun with this one...animals, altars, buildings.

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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    #25 and #28 to start, both coins of Constantine I. I suppose "altäre" refers to religious themes in general, as the Dafne reverse does not exhibit an actual altar.

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  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Could you please tell me what is this thing to the left of the spear. Did the fallen horseman lose Flying CR.jpg his cap ??
     
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  7. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I'll start with Empress Eudoxia and Emp. Constantine the Second.. Cnst II R3.jpg EmprEux R.jpg
     

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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    When you post, please label the coin with which number you consider it to fulfill.

    #23 Theodosius I
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    #27 Decentius
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  9. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Same number 36 as well, but this time with Emperor Constantius II instead of Constantine II. The officina is also different, H instead of I .. Cost2 R H.jpg Cost 2    RIC 7        - 66.jpg
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, I'm pretty sure that I have #32 covered?!!


    Constantine I
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    Constantius II

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    Constantine II
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Great coins everyone. Doug, I'm glad I started this thread, if for no other reason but to see some of your coins that I have not seen before. The Theodosius and Decentius are positively wonderful! Steve, you've cornered the market on four-turret-open-door campgates! Charles, I can't see what you've got on that one FH - maybe an anomaly on the flan? Can you post a better pic?

    I will add #21 of Julian. This coin is rather a place-holder for me. I would like one with a better strike, for the sake of Julian's very distinctive portrait. But it's all there...

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    Doug has already covered #20 earlier, the Bull/Eagle reverse of Julian.
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    A few of the types in this diagram are quite rare. According to Bruck (p.58), the SAECVLI FELICITAS types are Rome-only issues of Constantine I, Crispus, Constantine II, Licinius, and Licinius II. I found four examples on Wildwinds. Does anyone have any? Is it a reasonable for me to place one on my want list? Or altogether out of reach?

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    I did not find a pic of the garlanded-pedestal variety.
     
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  13. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Number 21. Hope I'm not mistaken with this reverse of Constantius II . VOtCost2 R.jpg
     
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  14. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    #36 PROVIDENTIAEAVGG

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    Constantine AE3. 326-328 AD, 19mm, 2.5g

    OBV: CONSTANTINVS AVG, Laureate head right.

    REV: PROVIDENTIAE AVGG, campgate with eight rows, two turrets, no doors, star above, top row arches and dots in blocks, bottom row empty blocks, ramp at base, pellet in right field, SMTSE in ex.

    REF: RIC VII Thessalonica 153
     
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  15. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    #26 VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP

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    Constantine AE3. 319 AD. Arles mint, 3.0g, 18mm

    OBV: IMP CONSTA-NTINVS AVG Laureate created helmeted & cuirassed bust right.

    REV: VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP, two Victories facing & inscribing VOT PR on shield placed on plain altar, PARL in ex.

    REF: RIC VII Arles 191
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, does this count as #26 or #27 ???

    Valerian I, Billon Antoninianus
    253-260 AD
    Diameter: 23 mm
    Weight: 3.76 grams
    Obverse: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, Valerian bust right radiate cuirassed and draped
    Reverse: VOTA ORBIS, Two victories attaching shield inscribed SC to a palm-tree


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  17. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Steve.. Believe me , I was wondering the same thing before posting this billon.. GalRIC459.jpg GallienBillon.jpg
     
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  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    No guys, Valerian and Gallienus are earlier than the scope of Bruck's book. Third Century is not considered Late Roman.
     
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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Technically, the first issues of Constantine and Licinius are too early as well. I really wonder what he was thinking when he selected the start date.
     
  20. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I have come to this thread late and never heard of Bruck. I googled him and found a copy of his book on Amazon. It should be here tomorrow.
     
  21. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Oh.. Yes JA. You're perfectly right and aware. It seems that Steve and myself are really wandering in this interesting realm of scarce and awesome ancients.
     
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