How Scarce Are PCGS 8.2 Slabs Compared to "Doily" Slabs (PCGS 3)??? Opinions...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by iGradeMS70, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    It seems like I see more PCGS "Doily" slabs than PCGS 8.2 Blue-label slabs nowadays. How rare ARE these PCGS 8.2 slabs? Does anyone know how long PCGS placed coins within these slabs, how many were produced, and/or if these slabs command a premium for their scarcity? :)

    Thanks in Advance,
    Brian
     
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  3. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Conder wrote the book on slab history. He might know. I doubt anyone outside PCGS could say how many were released.

    But I don't see any 8.2, just 8. As far as I know there is no premium attached to them. Doilies, yes. Regency, sure. OGH's? Sometimes. Blue label, I don't think so.
    Lance.
     
  4. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Are there any PCGS or NGC slabs that some of you would believe to be associated with 'looser' grading standards for particular coins or entire years, and caution should be excercised? I keep hearing and reading conflicting stories: avoid some years, it's much-ado-about-nothing, or maybe the differences were minute and you're talking about maybe 1/2 grade off at most (which I can't probably tell). Worst case, God Forbid, any times where doctored or counterfeit coins may have slipped by the TPGs at a somewhat higher rate ?

    Here's what I am looking at right now:

    (1) MORGAN SILVER DOLLARS: A PCGS "5" slab from the mid-to-late 1990's. Also, a PCGS "15" slab from 2004+

    (2) SAINT GAUDENS $20:
    An NGC holder that appears to be from 2005+, it looks like the modern ones that have the coin grabbed by clasps so it's not completely encircled by plastic. Also.....a PCGS coin where I can't ID the slab, it says "The Standard For the Coin Industry" on the back along with a greenish-hologram looking "PCGS" on the right side. Is this legit ?
     
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  5. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    The pcgs coin with the greenish hologram is the latest slab i believe... probably why u dont see any when searching?
     
  6. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Learn how to grade.
     
  7. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I'm an idiot...never thought about that....thanks !!:D
     
  8. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I am but my time is limited and it's never something I will be comfortable relying on solo.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The 8.2 reference makes me think he is getting the number from Cameron's Sample slab website
     
  10. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

    I am lost about what you all talking about. 8 or 8.2 or 5 or whatever. I have PCGS holders from the beginning. Them rattlers to the new so what are you all saying about looser grades in the PCGS.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    When I wrote the book on Third party grading services and all the holder varieties they had uses I numbered the varieties in the order in which they had appeared. My PCGS 8 was the first blue labeled slab with the Series and Coin # on the front label and the barcode on the back label. That style was used from Oct of 1998 through Feb 2002. I never assigned a number of PCGS 8.2.

    Cameron Kiefer did a website of TPG service Sample slabs. His numbering system does NOT always go in the order in which they were used and he often has slabs with higher numbers that were issued before slabs with lower numbers. He does have a PCGS 8.2 which is a sample slab issued with a Morgan dollar in it in a FOURTH generation of PCGS slab holder.

    I did not list that sample slab in my book, if I had it would probably have had the number PCGS 4S4. I numbered the sample slabs by the generation of the slab and then the order in which they came to my attention because I could not actually determine what order they were issued in.
     
  12. Pacecar

    Pacecar Well-Known Member

    Conder, what is your thought on this Sample slab. I know about the same type that sold on Ebay last year for $525. Forum_Obv.jpg Forum_Rev.jpg
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Very tough sample slab, that is the first style of Sample used by PCGS and they almost immediately stopped using the all zero serial number. Most of these used business strike silver dimes (mostly from the 1960's but there are some from the late 50's as well) and there are some that used proof silver dimes.
     
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