Quarter Bill

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Indianhead65, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Have any of you guys read this? In the April edition of Coins magazine theres an article that reads as follows.......

    Quarter Bill

    "For the fifth time in as many Congresses, legislation to authorize the equivelent of a six coin extension to thr 50 State quarter program has passed the house of representatives. Action came at 1:28 p.m. on Jan. 23,2007, passed on the consent calendar unanimously," reports David L. Ganz in the Feb. 6 issue of Coins sister publication, Numismatic News. "The last time it had similarly passed was in the wee morning hours of Dec. 9, 2006, as the last sands of the 109th Congress slipped through the hour glass. "The 2006 action then shifted to the Senate, which ajourned an hour later without taking action, thus killing the measure. Under legislative rules, the initiative dies when the session of Congress terminates, and must be reintroduced, which it was, if it is to become a reality.
    "Providing for inclusion of a circulating quarter dollar coin program for the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the United States Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of the Northern Marinara Islands, H.R. 392 would add an 11th year to the existing 10 year program, currently slated to terminate in 2008.
    "Six additional coins would be struck the following year, presumably at the rate of about one in every eight weeks, compared to the rate now employed of approximately one every ten weeks."

    The bill now moves to the Senate.

    Id like to know your opinion of this.
     
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  3. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    If the district of Columbia wants a state quarter, then they should also petition to become the 51st state.

    As for the rest, I doubt any of them will ever become a state, so I don't think a state quarter is appropriate. If they do it on the quarter it should be considered a different program. That, I'm OK with. I have nothing against any of them and have enjoyed my visits to Puerto Rico so please NO offence is intended. How silly would it be - for example we release a quarter with Puerto Rico on it and they then become completely independent country. Just my opinion :) which can often be swayed - generally as a result of gained knowledge :rolleyes: .
     
  4. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I agree with you all the way Darryl, Just because these places, besides D.C., are U.S. territories outside of the mainland doesnt justify their reason to deserve a "state quarter". You are right, if D.C. wants this designation then they should petition to be a state.
     
  5. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    From the way Jay Leno talks about California I would think we would soon be having a Mexican State Quarter.
     
  6. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Think it's kind of silly... besides what are all those people who have their 50 state quarter albums supposed to do with the 6 new ones?

    And I don't think the Marianas Islands deserve a quarter in their honor, with all the junk "coins" they're responsible for, lol...

    Anyway hopefully the Senate will just vote it down. Not saying I won't collect any if they insist on minting them, but personally hope they don't.

    Would rather see them do a special redesign of the Washington quarter when it's due to revert to normal in 2009. Perhaps along the lines of the way the Jefferson nickel was redesigned in 2006.
     
  7. alwayslost

    alwayslost New Member

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  8. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    I wouldnt mind seeing a redesign of the Washington quarter myself in 2009. I certainly dont want to see these "territories" have a design on our U.S. Coins. They are not considered a state in our country. I am very much against this bill. But, like you Troodon, I think and hope, it will die in the Senate.
     
  9. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    I actually wouldn't mind it if they seperated it from the State Quarter program and instead called it the Territory Quarter program.

    i think there are about 15 territories:

    American Samoa

    Baker Island -- (uninhabited, administered from Washington, DC)

    Federated States of Micronesia

    Guam

    Howland Island -- (uninhabited, administered from Washington, DC)

    Jarvis Island -- (uninhabited, administered from Washington, DC)

    Johnston Atoll -- (under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Air Force)

    Kingman Reef -- (uninhabited, under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Navy)

    Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands

    Midway Islands -- (under the responsibility of the US Fish & Wildlife Service)

    Navassa Island -- (uninhabited, administered from Washington, DC)

    Palmyra Atoll -- (uninhabited, under the responsibility of the U.S. Dept. of Interior)

    Puerto Rico

    U.S. Virgin Islands

    Wake Island -- (under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Air Force)

    They could do five coins a year for three years. Most of these are little places, atolls and even a reef, but it could be some interesting coins.
     
  10. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    CentDime - Please enable Private Messaging. Your last post raised some non-coin related questions that I would like to ask you.
     
  11. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    50 states

    Why call these coins the "States Quarters" if the Mint adds all the territories and commonweaths we have. Issue separate coins for these areas, maybe in another denomination, size or metal.
     
  12. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    Hi satootoko ,PM is enabled now.
     
  13. jaytant

    jaytant Active Member

    If one of us would go and become the first (and only) resident on those 6 unihabitated islands, we would get the chance to design our own quarter! [yeah I know we aren't allowed to, etc etc... but would have been awesome to have 300 million coins with my own face on it!]
     
  14. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I agree centdime and under this premise, I would be all for it - they could even throw in DC as the odd one out. :D I really think it would be a good reminder that these places are US Territories. Walk up and ask the average American to name all of the us territories and I would be surprised to get more than two or three correct answers. The designs could be a good reflection of their culture/habitat/or history.
     
  15. smullen

    smullen Coin Hoarder

    I agree, they aren't States, how can they be on State Quarter???

    Why not maybe have another short run series and maybe on another Coin???

    Like:
    Cent (not been redone in ages and we got time before 2009)
    Dime (not be redone in ages)
    Nickel (had a newer series, but thats over)
    HD (not been redone in ages)

    On second hand, I can already see the complaints...

    If we put them on a coin of smaller denomanation, they would sue, saying we are insulting them and saying they are of worth less than the Quarters...

    If we put them on a HD or better, the states would then sue or atleast be insulted...

    Ahhh The Age of PC'ness......
     
  16. Philly Dog

    Philly Dog Coin Collector

    I'm with you they are not states. They do not belong on the state quarters
     
  17. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    C'mon guys - you're really beating a dead horse on the issue of "State Quarters" designation for territories and possessions.

    I am unaware of any pending bill which expressly calls for additional quarters to be part of the "State Quarters" program. None of the bills, or potential bills, I've seen mentioned include any reference to the State Quarter program, and it's the journalists writing about them who make the link.

    According to the CIA World Factbook:
    • Puerto Rico is a territory of the US "with Commonwealth status".
    • American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, Navassa Island, Wake Island and Guam are ordinary territories.
    • Midway Island, Baker Island, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Palmyra Atoll, Kingman Reef and Johnston Atoll are all territories, jointly comprising the United States Pacific Island Wildlife Refuges.
    • The Federated States of Micronesia, however is a former UN Trust Territory under US administration, which attained independence under a "Compact of Free Association with the US", it has a different status entirely.
    • Under their unique relationship to the US, the Northern Mariana Islands also have a non-territory status.

    And, of course, the District of Colombia is a federal "district", not a territory.

    "Other US Entity Quarters" is a rather cumbersome name for a Mint program, but I can't think of any other completely accurate designation. Perhaps "State Quarter Extension Program" would be appropriate for a program to mint quarters for some, or all, of those 16 varied entities. :p

    Or, how about calling it the "District and Territory Quarters Program", and excluding what used to be lumped together as the Pacific Trust Territories - the Micronesian States and Marianas?
     
  18. smullen

    smullen Coin Hoarder

    Welcome to the Internet... This is one of the many great thing we do on Forums... :)

    I'm just messing with ya, please don't get upset...

    However, We need a "" Beating a Dead Horsey" Smiley...

    BTW, Did I mention, people are starting to find GW Error coins... :D
     
  19. wvrick

    wvrick Senior Member

    there is allready a DC quarter out their it is being sold through the mail (not real) but i got one for my aunt who lives there. wvrick
     
  20. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    [​IMG] Nah, [​IMG]

    After all, everyone knows the Mint's quality control guys wouldn't permit errors to escape the building. :rolleyes:
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    There is a reason why DC isn't a state. Back in the 1790 it was thought that it wouldn't be a good idea to have the nations capital to be within any one state and potentially be "hostage" to any one state, or area. It was afraid that if it was in the industial north tarrifs and cost for manufactured goods would be high, and the south might face retalitory tariffs for their agricultural products. And of course if it was in the south the manufactures in the north were afraid they would suffer. Then of course there was the question of slavery as well. So a comporomise was reached where VA and MD each donated land to create a 10 square mile "District" that would not be under the control of any state and which would handle its own affairs. And to keep the people their from having undue influence over the government the District would not have representation in Congress and those living there would not have voting rights. Now since then they have gained non-voting representaion, and they have gotten the right to vote for President and thier representatives.

    If it became a state I think we could really see a lot of pork spending in DC because it would not only beeifit the representatives from DC for re-election, but it would also be a plum for all the other Congressmen and Senators who live there and often retire there once they leave office.
     
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